From lojban+bncCK30vq5WEImR0ucEGgStDzao@googlegroups.com Mon Nov 29 21:16:07 2010 Received: from mail-pv0-f189.google.com ([74.125.83.189]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1PNIZP-0003me-NS; Mon, 29 Nov 2010 21:16:07 -0800 Received: by pvh1 with SMTP id 1sf2066434pvh.16 for ; Mon, 29 Nov 2010 21:15:58 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:date:from:to:subject:message-id :references:mime-version:in-reply-to:user-agent:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type:content-disposition :content-transfer-encoding; bh=883xMk0GwhmOEiGG+U+Xn1JfB9wafprH7jfIn4s8PNQ=; b=4H2D4+VQr5y6Gqi6dnGBTAcCVhoQ7MVmtOXvk98N3l+nZOETWi2NeLWFjAFbx0g6Bo OZMgiRThII5kv8MyB+fzulOpldSpd+FwAvxP/WyDKfYEjUHJzU3i8DaJo6t80grM02uK 41A+tJdw4c0EWVmTe2SfHqZM5EkTLdA8Ivt0g= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:date:from:to:subject:message-id:references :mime-version:in-reply-to:user-agent:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type:content-disposition :content-transfer-encoding; b=mOF7DFTouHfWBbrYafhLqrhZkTwzmLAftH6KHIYCFyxWSpLRlYwIEF0s8HhIbJoS2o yiZAZPWNRxEXdAthBF3OKOWjuc4uFGXja/QuEdvrvpt4fP6zl89pqaw66RDnGSpZ+hbZ a8OJRc1n/jeaxt5WZKarQodxtoQcky88tMSoA= Received: by 10.143.86.1 with SMTP id o1mr265588wfl.57.1291094153606; Mon, 29 Nov 2010 21:15:53 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.142.78.15 with SMTP id a15ls9467774wfb.2.p; Mon, 29 Nov 2010 21:15:52 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.142.217.17 with SMTP id p17mr4471183wfg.4.1291094152348; Mon, 29 Nov 2010 21:15:52 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.142.217.17 with SMTP id p17mr4471181wfg.4.1291094152323; Mon, 29 Nov 2010 21:15:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org (digitalkingdom.org [173.13.139.234]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id p40si7003243wfc.6.2010.11.29.21.15.52; Mon, 29 Nov 2010 21:15:52 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org designates 173.13.139.234 as permitted sender) client-ip=173.13.139.234; Received: from rlpowell by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1PNIZD-0003mD-CO for lojban@googlegroups.com; Mon, 29 Nov 2010 21:15:51 -0800 Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2010 21:15:51 -0800 From: Robin Lee Powell To: lojban@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] Time for the perenial other-centric-.ui conversation Message-ID: <20101130051551.GB27025@digitalkingdom.org> References: <433664.89554.qm@web81307.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <906301.34622.qm@web81302.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <306693.13766.qm@web81301.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <20101130045834.GA27025@digitalkingdom.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-Original-Sender: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org designates 173.13.139.234 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 12:11:44AM -0500, Craig Daniel wrote: > On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 11:58 PM, Robin Lee Powell > wrote: > > On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 10:09:05PM -0500, Oren wrote: > >> This lengthy conversation seems like a stark gap in > >> interpretation of a moderately used word. Doesn't LLC have some > >> like, official example sentence that explains the usage of a > >> word? Isn't this what those cmavo definitions are for? It seems > >> really silly to watch this go back and forth without any > >> examples. > > > > You mean LLG. > > > > I haven't been paying attention, because PC (John Clifford) was > > involved, and that's just how I roll. =A0I had been under the > > impression they were arguing over the semantics of UI in > > general, and potentially new UI in particular. =A0If they're > > arguing over the meaning of particular word, which one? >=20 > Originally, da'oi (an experimental COI some people have proposed). > Then it was dai for a while, and now it's mostly pei. *nod* If someone wants to summarize the confusion over dai and pei and put it in the appropriate BPFK section, or email it to me, I'd appreciate the help. -Robin --=20 http://singinst.org/ : Our last, best hope for a fantastic future. Lojban (http://www.lojban.org/): The language in which "this parrot is dead" is "ti poi spitaki cu morsi", but "this sentence is false" is "na nei". My personal page: http://www.digitalkingdom.org/rlp/ --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegrou= ps.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= ?hl=3Den.