From lojban+bncCICntNPQBRCO9cLmBBoE8NFlcQ@googlegroups.com Tue Nov 02 18:27:54 2010 Received: from mail-yw0-f61.google.com ([209.85.213.61]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1PDS8l-00082J-FN; Tue, 02 Nov 2010 18:27:54 -0700 Received: by ywj3 with SMTP id 3sf142133ywj.16 for ; Tue, 02 Nov 2010 18:27:45 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:mime-version :received:received:date:in-reply-to:x-ip:references:user-agent :x-http-useragent:message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help :list-archive:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=uJQOVcL+V8bqnXe5MhO0GJIFIwpITllmvoZ27TbvYcQ=; b=aXejbTjN+8MYLl8HkZbbp7arUi36/jVxo7SgE6MM5bgfD6NuZy5Be+OYQAB3pjhqdW axMBr3HbdClOoJXVyXYflizCh3b3OJlSTaBpKKvv8l7tvIuT/tGhQv8R7qoqGR48DLKu sdnj4fn94yeD2PP4DNrVU8blwlX7c1nB9cZOo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:mime-version:date:in-reply-to:x-ip:references :user-agent:x-http-useragent:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=Lu2BySo3c+5muaIg5jZXs0tMsMy/IqVdqmMcpJzyLJ7BJR8HMRjHmTc0+rF/kNMV8X vWsylh8X6vzDGaglrNwoH7Cu0vjwh6obiRCyZsB5IJApEEu+npSngCH1oaxFffH3fMvk nKM6IAdw+1FxTvmzKHxF2Y4tHqG/z7OEF88TI= Received: by 10.101.3.31 with SMTP id f31mr73181ani.21.1288747662148; Tue, 02 Nov 2010 18:27:42 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.101.28.24 with SMTP id f24ls211055anj.0.p; Tue, 02 Nov 2010 18:27:41 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.101.106.25 with SMTP id i25mr74064anm.47.1288747661479; Tue, 02 Nov 2010 18:27:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: by a37g2000yqi.googlegroups.com with HTTP; Tue, 2 Nov 2010 18:27:41 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2010 18:27:41 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <91643.97322.qm@web81302.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-IP: 166.135.161.109 References: <20101102040903.GA10493@alice.local> <4e1aec20-2d77-4473-a6e3-780700105315@v20g2000yqb.googlegroups.com> <924334.40683.qm@web81308.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <20101102191856.GE10792@alice.local> <92fe62fc-36e3-4d93-938c-30c010d937e5@v20g2000yqb.googlegroups.com> <91643.97322.qm@web81302.mail.mud.yahoo.com> User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-GB; rv:1.9.2.12) Gecko/20101027 Ubuntu/10.04 (lucid) Firefox/3.6.12,gzip(gfe) Message-ID: Subject: [lojban] Re: mi kakne lo bajra From: Lindar To: lojban X-Original-Sender: lindarthebard@yahoo.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Responding to xorxes: You're very sweet, but still wrong. No argument won. =D lo te djica has little to nothing to do with the problem. If I want an apple for eating, it's -still- not specifying what is wanted about the apple. Nothing at all! lo te djica is for specifying why it is wanted, not in what way. {mi djica lo nu terve'u pa lo plise kei lo nu citka} is perfectly reasonable as a use of both places. x3 is the reason itself, not what the action is of the thing in question. If yours is the correct version, then how do I express "I want to run in order to be healthy."? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en.