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PIEKARSKI" Subject: Re: [lojban] xukmi instance To: lojban@googlegroups.com In-Reply-To: <201011301303.57280.phma@phma.optus.nu> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Original-Sender: totus@rogers.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: 98.139.52.221 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of totus@rogers.com) smtp.mail=totus@rogers.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@rogers.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable >=20 > On Tuesday 30 November 2010 12:44:34 A. PIEKARSKI wrote: > > coi > > > > Can anyone offer a suggestion as to the meaning of "instance" in the > > gismu definition of {xukmi}?: > > > > 'x1 is an instance of substance/chemical/drug x2 (individual or mass) w= ith > > purity x3' > > > > I've checked several dictionaries for "instance", but nothing fits. >=20 > I think it means, for instance: > x1 is the bag of sea salt on my counter > x2 is pure sodium chloride > x3 is some number a little less than 1. > I don't usually think of sea salt as a chemical, though; I eat it, rather= than=20 > pure NaCl, because it has all those other elements. Getting the right mix= in=20 > the Lobgugde space station is going to be a bit tricky. >=20 I think you are right.=A0 However, there must be a better word than "instan= ce" for=20 this. Most other gismu of this type seem to use "a quanity of...". totus --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. 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