From lojban+bncCMHEmaCOBhDjndbnBBoEGfeMDQ@googlegroups.com Tue Nov 30 15:55:31 2010 Received: from mail-gw0-f61.google.com ([74.125.83.61]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1PNa2g-000264-96; Tue, 30 Nov 2010 15:55:31 -0800 Received: by gwj17 with SMTP id 17sf2373506gwj.16 for ; Tue, 30 Nov 2010 15:55:20 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:mime-version:received:received :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=rE27idp+gZXNyhaHw1aAw7bC3MxqRXKNOgr2qsX/HBQ=; b=dm5Zvox1QpJgBR5bXvans5J5Use/W65+AVXXc6jsWcImY7Wd2QvaPXHxucYXZsE00Q eFKTSrgpJpDDSwjjFHwslNbOsVDW92xfOlLmyFeExsoqMT7quilkezhkI07bZJRAvLDU nruht02B23wRHhKzQybRfLWYM/4aSpZJDJ+W0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=Kaxz8XtM3eG+8Xclb5/JhjX4qlZRXYTc3LZT85ZKbDKgLOCph8c77dgzFoNxTziGul Tep2tOWi4MP7qFM+59//73u7mQbsgPevf5+1qV2UBhZZjc+RXCoVjSqAsArHzHThWJU4 sPPhUXbgxQl495QWHzDofkd5R0zzamfeqgiwU= Received: by 10.150.162.16 with SMTP id k16mr875788ybe.44.1291161315379; Tue, 30 Nov 2010 15:55:15 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.231.76.165 with SMTP id c37ls2719695ibk.3.p; Tue, 30 Nov 2010 15:55:14 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.231.36.140 with SMTP id t12mr1007415ibd.4.1291161314535; Tue, 30 Nov 2010 15:55:14 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.231.36.140 with SMTP id t12mr1007414ibd.4.1291161314473; Tue, 30 Nov 2010 15:55:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-iw0-f182.google.com (mail-iw0-f182.google.com [209.85.214.182]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id b32si2686681ibq.5.2010.11.30.15.55.13; Tue, 30 Nov 2010 15:55:13 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 209.85.214.182 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.214.182; Received: by mail-iw0-f182.google.com with SMTP id 39so8721515iwn.41 for ; Tue, 30 Nov 2010 15:55:13 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.16.205 with SMTP id p13mr8092239iba.108.1291161313206; Tue, 30 Nov 2010 15:55:13 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.231.207.65 with HTTP; Tue, 30 Nov 2010 15:55:12 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <659354.26852.qm@web81304.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <604115.16202.qm@web81305.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <752705.36302.qm@web81307.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <822423.65423.qm@web81301.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <605319.19000.qm@web81306.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <433664.89554.qm@web81307.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <906301.34622.qm@web81302.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <306693.13766.qm@web81301.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <144450.19864.qm@web81308.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <132939.86626.qm@web81302.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <886986.39526.qm@web81306.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <476795.46183.qm@web81307.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <435142.54831.qm@web81306.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2010 16:55:12 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] Time for the perenial other-centric-.ui conversation From: Jonathan Jones To: lojban@googlegroups.com, lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: eyeonus@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 209.85.214.182 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=eyeonus@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0003255759f66be44f04964deb73 --0003255759f66be44f04964deb73 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I have just discovered an error in the Smart.fm gismu lesson. This error did not originally exist, and was placed there at some later date. The definition for {cusku} on Smart.fm is currently "x1 says x2 for audience x3 via medium x4" This is incorrect. The English word "says" carries with it the implied meaning that it was verbally spoken. {cusku} is any form of expression, not merely speech, which is {ba'usku}. Originally, and correctly, {cusku} was "x1 expresses x2 for audience x3 via medium x4" Unfortunately, I am currently unable to fix this problem. It is my hope that Robin may be able to determine the method neccessary to fix this, when he has the time and inclination to do so. It is possible that the only way in which to fix it is to delete the item and re-add it with the correct definition. I am making this announcement on the Beginner's list as well in hopes that those of us who are using the lesson will be forewarned of this regrettable error, and also to hopefully shame the perpetrator a bit. :) -- mu'o mi'e .aionys. .i.a'o.e'e ko cmima le bende pe lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o (Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D ) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. --0003255759f66be44f04964deb73 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I have just discovered an error in the Smart.fm gismu lesson. This err= or did not originally exist, and was placed there at some later date.
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The definition for {cusku} on Smart.fm is currently
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"x1 says x2 for audience x3 via medium x4"
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This is incorrect. The English word "says" carries with it t= he implied meaning that it was verbally spoken. {cusku} is any form of expr= ession, not merely speech, which is {ba'usku}.
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Originally, and correctly, {cusku} was
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"x1=A0expresses x2 for audience x3 via medium x4"
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Unfortunately, I am currently unable to fix this problem.
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It is my hope that Robin may be able to determine the method neccessar= y to fix this, when he has the time and inclination to do so.
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It is possible that the only way in which to fix it is to delete the i= tem and re-add it with the correct definition.
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I am making this announcement on the Beginner's list as well in ho= pes that those of us who are using the lesson will be forewarned of this re= grettable error, and also to hopefully shame the perpetrator a bit. :)

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mu'o mi'e .aionys.

.i.a'o.e'e ko cmi= ma le bende pe lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o
(Co= me to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D )

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