From lojban+bncCIPo5fbjAhC-lMPmBBoEJ26Enw@googlegroups.com Tue Nov 02 19:34:52 2010 Received: from mail-gx0-f189.google.com ([209.85.161.189]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1PDTBY-0003e7-B3; Tue, 02 Nov 2010 19:34:52 -0700 Received: by gxk28 with SMTP id 28sf212839gxk.16 for ; Tue, 02 Nov 2010 19:34:42 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received:received-spf:received:mime-version:received :sender:received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from :to:x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=3TUjBJhrKUJEl3z73dm3klKXwIc8HWGlUlVGpU6eCqI=; b=ZePCdt+VS+bj+RAAhCwJzgUNOWPWrPN0/lMQSOq1JgyQdsZBfBxVTWctBZbPeCfvdx fL0f6aPm1vqylrAx+/ihoWX95wuTw3XAHi1uHERrXcz9AP1EmMBfiNJqr4Dtf0FRM8IJ yJKehxCpkx+jwsuUKMWlthdvuANUUOndCXR4U= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=H2UeAoA2q4ubK/T6XvU+tfXyd5JSi4V+hKCkPUZ0WSj/vcL9/mVx2hAN/BC2jeDv/y rUrkCYqiRDoHF2ScHn1JfqMWljbmopEJsTiM6jdiX0RqIxM/stT3ePgIXlSTnPDKvio2 qg8GTulS3m55rRRdpyEeK55u9/uhX2ZQ6KEhI= Received: by 10.151.17.2 with SMTP id u2mr9953ybi.52.1288751678538; Tue, 02 Nov 2010 19:34:38 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.150.234.10 with SMTP id g10ls354110ybh.4.p; Tue, 02 Nov 2010 19:34:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.151.15.19 with SMTP id s19mr43931ybi.42.1288751678003; Tue, 02 Nov 2010 19:34:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.142.199.12 with SMTP id w12mr4946382wff.68.1288750171213; Tue, 02 Nov 2010 19:09:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.142.199.12 with SMTP id w12mr4946381wff.68.1288750171186; Tue, 02 Nov 2010 19:09:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-pv0-f169.google.com (mail-pv0-f169.google.com [74.125.83.169]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id p40si13925909wfc.2.2010.11.02.19.09.30; Tue, 02 Nov 2010 19:09:30 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of cyril.slobin@gmail.com designates 74.125.83.169 as permitted sender) client-ip=74.125.83.169; Received: by pvc21 with SMTP id 21so64871pvc.0 for ; Tue, 02 Nov 2010 19:09:30 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.142.233.16 with SMTP id f16mr690610wfh.339.1288750169401; Tue, 02 Nov 2010 19:09:29 -0700 (PDT) Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.142.204.3 with HTTP; Tue, 2 Nov 2010 19:09:29 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <23ac6112-9897-4424-8c42-d23ccac97e30@k22g2000yqh.googlegroups.com> References: <23ac6112-9897-4424-8c42-d23ccac97e30@k22g2000yqh.googlegroups.com> Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2010 05:09:29 +0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: The place structure of {selma'o} From: Cyril Slobin To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: cyrilslobin@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of cyril.slobin@gmail.com designates 74.125.83.169 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=cyril.slobin@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 3:30 AM, Lindar wrote: > To add to this, yes there -is- a precedent that {se broda} is not the > same as {selbroda} and it's even in common usage. {se kelci} vs. > {selkei} vs. {nunkei} etc. etc. My point is, {selbroda} can be a subclass of {se broda}, but cannot be a superclass. I am feeling like {selkei} doesn't violate this rule, and is therefore OK. On the other hand, {selma'o} if including BRIVLA and CMENE does violate it, and is therefore NOT OK. -- http://slobin.pp.ru/ `When I use a word,' Humpty Dumpty said, `it means just what I choose it to mean' -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en.