From lojban+bncCJ2UzZHuDRDttNbnBBoE4srDuQ@googlegroups.com Tue Nov 30 16:44:47 2010 Received: from mail-wy0-f189.google.com ([74.125.82.189]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1PNaoK-0004YC-Kn; Tue, 30 Nov 2010 16:44:47 -0800 Received: by wyb35 with SMTP id 35sf4968420wyb.16 for ; Tue, 30 Nov 2010 16:44:34 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:mime-version:received:received :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=U3CtntpKU2kLv+ukjghO+zqCv1jb3Z6vUJBSYfXZmIY=; b=iOKgP6E7AWAh+lEh5l8UHQgggP9QdN2leWKFMeB756aOh8Ld6N+J0+Ja3bq7sRTj8W pOoSJo5SV2fcZqEZbXnAs6pQqwKSrZvdbU1K5w9bz8OcvZSK+W2Ti/um8wN5iWCXXdbt GdqqVSl/TzgThqKSz2SMvFTgGZG9d11aJEsyQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=HS53bRufzqSC5n+x+eU2KSUozXkNTwkqDp3mUq4Wod3XMiTvGJAAGCfFljtVGfYJ/G M7uPX+dEiuoONRo5dKRqT+P/jhOIKEvbqkL+QliKJZ98Q08xpuFkYV2vqEIsFyCzAWiT Gb1iNdIFgACSbzTz3wUzKhUYDOWzMsohNctjc= Received: by 10.216.237.203 with SMTP id y53mr298607weq.23.1291164269510; Tue, 30 Nov 2010 16:44:29 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.216.208.4 with SMTP id p4ls2942254weo.2.p; Tue, 30 Nov 2010 16:44:28 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.216.0.82 with SMTP id 60mr398165wea.5.1291164267903; Tue, 30 Nov 2010 16:44:27 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.216.0.82 with SMTP id 60mr398164wea.5.1291164267813; Tue, 30 Nov 2010 16:44:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-wy0-f179.google.com (mail-wy0-f179.google.com [74.125.82.179]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id a52si796719wer.0.2010.11.30.16.44.26; Tue, 30 Nov 2010 16:44:26 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 74.125.82.179 as permitted sender) client-ip=74.125.82.179; Received: by mail-wy0-f179.google.com with SMTP id 11so6339640wyi.10 for ; Tue, 30 Nov 2010 16:44:26 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.227.143.18 with SMTP id s18mr8687961wbu.112.1291164266594; Tue, 30 Nov 2010 16:44:26 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.227.138.16 with HTTP; Tue, 30 Nov 2010 16:44:26 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2010 21:44:26 -0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] Smart.fm error From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?= To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: jjllambias@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 74.125.82.179 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=jjllambias@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 9:37 PM, Jonathan Jones wrote: > > Yes, we've had this discussion, and IIRC, your opinion was the minority o= ne. It wouldn't be the first time. But it's still pretty obvious that the x2 of cusku is words, not meanings, just like the object of "to say" and unlike the object of "to express". > I'm still disagreeing with you on this whole subject, not willing to get > into it again, and regardless of which opinion is correct, the other cusk= u > entries (lo cusku, lo se cusku, et al.) still use the "express" keyword, = so > either cusku needs to be changed back, which is easier, or all of them ne= ed > to be changed to "say" as well. The latter would make more sense. > Also, this is my project, so I get the last word anyway,=A0and I get to v= eto > your opinion on this regard. I don't disagree with that. I only disagree with your saying that "expresses" is better than "says". (Did I just misuse "saying", BTW?) mu'o mi'e xorxes --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegrou= ps.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= ?hl=3Den.