From lojban+bncCIycn8S8DhDPl8XmBBoEcfOw_A@googlegroups.com Wed Nov 03 04:47:39 2010 Received: from mail-vw0-f61.google.com ([209.85.212.61]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1PDboW-0007My-Lo; Wed, 03 Nov 2010 04:47:39 -0700 Received: by vws14 with SMTP id 14sf964233vws.16 for ; Wed, 03 Nov 2010 04:47:30 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:mime-version:received:received :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=8dbnN/Z4BvOUh7a+lPzFHuQNt/waWhAi9IW5d8o8Yyc=; b=DnbRr9nFKTMb1huj12EjaPG5zJzjQzizjWhpeneZ4dcXqPB2+KKfW02KORhNhxcCZR YOVNBzPa7hEtn+Qr3xaH95c3uIi9ujNsdX/2GlMXUOAvkREhaTLpIpdZjgsoI0sqrdI7 5VFSAptndMUIUBbU2Xk/BR6rcBOXg27ayXYRY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=37zGV3cQeEdSL3lmF0efYO3TFgNsomubhSuVzaDQ2ZSRS+WowSxpQEVBSfmzi2Ol+a 4cPov05Mq1SJYjqQDgbPPAZI8GsloIhVE4Q0/BpMc4VpJb8/5Vp1HTOdJMl8dj7BXmX/ 4Yu6A8ji6dIN2XmzplW/vyvbC6cyOCdyqfrVs= Received: by 10.220.193.196 with SMTP id dv4mr43590vcb.23.1288784847537; Wed, 03 Nov 2010 04:47:27 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.220.77.158 with SMTP id g30ls224097vck.3.p; Wed, 03 Nov 2010 04:47:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.220.195.203 with SMTP id ed11mr1045248vcb.17.1288784846236; Wed, 03 Nov 2010 04:47:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.220.195.203 with SMTP id ed11mr1045247vcb.17.1288784846211; Wed, 03 Nov 2010 04:47:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-vw0-f51.google.com (mail-vw0-f51.google.com [209.85.212.51]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id j32si1359949vbp.2.2010.11.03.04.47.25; Wed, 03 Nov 2010 04:47:25 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of mturniansky@gmail.com designates 209.85.212.51 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.212.51; Received: by mail-vw0-f51.google.com with SMTP id 20so1044586vws.10 for ; Wed, 03 Nov 2010 04:47:25 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.224.19.129 with SMTP id a1mr170849qab.154.1288784845043; Wed, 03 Nov 2010 04:47:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.229.219.14 with HTTP; Wed, 3 Nov 2010 04:47:24 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <23ac6112-9897-4424-8c42-d23ccac97e30@k22g2000yqh.googlegroups.com> References: <23ac6112-9897-4424-8c42-d23ccac97e30@k22g2000yqh.googlegroups.com> Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2010 07:47:24 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: The place structure of {selma'o} From: Michael Turniansky To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: mturniansky@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of mturniansky@gmail.com designates 209.85.212.51 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=mturniansky@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 8:30 PM, Lindar wrote: > To add to this, yes there -is- a precedent that {se broda} is not the > same as {selbroda} and it's even in common usage. {se kelci} vs. > {selkei} vs. {nunkei} etc. etc. > Whatever you believe about it being in "common usage", I see no definition of selkei in jbovlaste, so it's not "official". But I can guess what it is -- a "se kelci". QED :-) A nunkei, OTOH cannot be a selkei because a nunkei must be an event, whereas a selkei is not (and if you are going to tell me that "Monopoly" is a nunkei, it's not. Only a session of playing Monopoly is. The game itself is either a se kelci or a te nunkei. --gejyspa -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en.