From lojban+bncCK30vq5WEJGcmugEGgTLyJpw@googlegroups.com Mon Dec 13 13:20:35 2010 Received: from mail-px0-f189.google.com ([209.85.212.189]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1PSFop-0008SU-7O; Mon, 13 Dec 2010 13:20:35 -0800 Received: by pxi19 with SMTP id 19sf2087487pxi.16 for ; Mon, 13 Dec 2010 13:20:21 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:date:from:to:subject:message-id :references:mime-version:in-reply-to:user-agent:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type:content-disposition; bh=8ipWNt7rqsDCs1je6mVKrGvR9b1L6xar0CITyyE9KYI=; b=BLhDPQeSPnb/WkBuEnZhlk0WehBzIZ8ozqm04l7PFSslUMFN6V9zDCpboLFsuqasrt 4V09IeRBqKtMI5zftp1QfMPuIrFD5QGARP5FLXXVxqg0Dk2eT1LofvQdSxubO/L6T7zX n/z4VHLmrYHsTVKfKIRKs3DVJhy0ftS6UWuzU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:date:from:to:subject:message-id:references :mime-version:in-reply-to:user-agent:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type:content-disposition; b=rmeTavbUpUDOFbtAnXdJf0ju6alxBuEAygqCPbS5c2yPaZgN1gC2dgr2pDOgTb3CeU knBYqHQKH3T7e02dINds0aMXXQZgt5Z0aI3vAIwKuGWf0ZKea3e8+zzoHhXSm/aBVa1e Jla8Vz3rwe9uLOq5QrcNt38yXTmDt5PyXW74g= Received: by 10.142.250.33 with SMTP id x33mr230999wfh.37.1292275217815; Mon, 13 Dec 2010 13:20:17 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.142.207.8 with SMTP id e8ls4161888wfg.2.p; Mon, 13 Dec 2010 13:20:16 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.142.151.15 with SMTP id y15mr3364190wfd.44.1292275216933; Mon, 13 Dec 2010 13:20:16 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.142.151.15 with SMTP id y15mr3364189wfd.44.1292275216913; Mon, 13 Dec 2010 13:20:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org (digitalkingdom.org [173.13.139.234]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id p40si7491731wfc.2.2010.12.13.13.20.16; Mon, 13 Dec 2010 13:20:16 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org designates 173.13.139.234 as permitted sender) client-ip=173.13.139.234; Received: from rlpowell by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1PSFod-0008SN-Qz for lojban@googlegroups.com; Mon, 13 Dec 2010 13:20:15 -0800 Date: Mon, 13 Dec 2010 13:20:15 -0800 From: Robin Lee Powell To: lojban@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] Lojban CFG Questions Message-ID: <20101213212015.GE7300@digitalkingdom.org> References: <201012101024.39320.roman_naumann@fastmail.fm> <20101210212120.GG27025@digitalkingdom.org> <201012132201.22269.roman_naumann@fastmail.fm> MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <201012132201.22269.roman_naumann@fastmail.fm> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-Original-Sender: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org designates 173.13.139.234 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 10:01:20PM +0100, Roman Naumann wrote: > Thanks a lot for your all hints. > > On Friday 10 December 2010 22:21:21 Robin Lee Powell wrote: > > Here's a very very simplified Lojban for you. It has exactly 4 > > words: lenu, mi, klama, ku > > That simple language was very helpful. I found a way around the > elidable 'ku' with an unambiguous CFG, it isn't LARL(1) or > something equally optimizable though. In the next weeks i'll try > to get a full grammar together. In case of questions (which is > probable), i'll again ask you (all) or you (Robin). Did you see xorxes' example solution elsewhere in this thread? -Robin -- http://singinst.org/ : Our last, best hope for a fantastic future. Lojban (http://www.lojban.org/): The language in which "this parrot is dead" is "ti poi spitaki cu morsi", but "this sentence is false" is "na nei". My personal page: http://www.digitalkingdom.org/rlp/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en.