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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see support@life.de for details. Content preview: Hi Robin, On Monday 13 December 2010 22:20:15 Robin Lee Powell wrote: > Did you see xorxes' example solution elsewhere in this thread? i skipped it as i read it grows exponentially with the number of terminators - but now that you mentioned it, i had a look at it. (works like i ex-/suspected, looking briefly over it) My solution does produce overhead too, but it is constant for each terminator, the grammar thus should grow linearily with each terminators added. I'm not convinced, though, that the idea scales for more terminators (with partly distinguishing features), but i'll see that soon. [...] Content analysis details: (-1.0 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP 0.0 FREEMAIL_FROM Sender email is freemail (roman_naumann[at]fastmail.fm) X-Original-Sender: roman_naumann@fastmail.fm X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: 80.190.195.21 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of roman_naumann@fastmail.fm) smtp.mail=roman_naumann@fastmail.fm Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hi Robin, On Monday 13 December 2010 22:20:15 Robin Lee Powell wrote: > Did you see xorxes' example solution elsewhere in this thread? i skipped it as i read it grows exponentially with the number of terminators - but now that you mentioned it, i had a look at it. (works like i ex-/suspected, looking briefly over it) My solution does produce overhead too, but it is constant for each terminator, the grammar thus should grow linearily with each terminators added. I'm not convinced, though, that the idea scales for more terminators (with partly distinguishing features), but i'll see that soon. Regards, Roman -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en.