From lojban+bncCK30vq5WEIyG6OgEGgTPruPO@googlegroups.com Tue Dec 28 07:32:47 2010 Received: from mail-pz0-f61.google.com ([209.85.210.61]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1PXbXT-0001wW-3j; Tue, 28 Dec 2010 07:32:45 -0800 Received: by pzk9 with SMTP id 9sf1663029pzk.16 for ; Tue, 28 Dec 2010 07:32:33 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:date:from:to:subject:message-id :references:mime-version:in-reply-to:user-agent:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type:content-disposition; bh=kTCeFMiCItVSCLfTGXdNheCrDKTU91eQTYYO3HzQWzw=; b=LQgWPKT1+WJE6jiLcYRyeVAbup8gh6X3gQt/vDQFkfhN6KQFJSX4IitJVQ8KCBewje 4ME9Xyl5cG/hfE6Dk/Vx4D3mVT+oh2TgCBXU60JGgNUy0C9v+7/BJHpnCxECtXgmkLtW LRKMNDGbOR66U8ApD3o1awq3GF7AgAjtK2SAw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:date:from:to:subject:message-id:references :mime-version:in-reply-to:user-agent:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type:content-disposition; b=xTcLgJsQOdIgyyl9brQ5fbyS/C3vw27OdCPxhrG8QoWqinbF7zN87I0wu++SpgCeHa mYqOGam+2Ht9PD2sXCohZJ3p9f2rglRzvAmLl2aG1AQhVZG7mleCNOgx8cPQKW19HuwV 7jxEHF9IR13umJsaS4P0y7nkCSMlZtMIaqc8s= Received: by 10.142.56.11 with SMTP id e11mr671881wfa.23.1293550348892; Tue, 28 Dec 2010 07:32:28 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.142.121.31 with SMTP id t31ls14216911wfc.3.p; Tue, 28 Dec 2010 07:32:27 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.142.73.16 with SMTP id v16mr10310658wfa.37.1293550347564; Tue, 28 Dec 2010 07:32:27 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.142.73.16 with SMTP id v16mr10310657wfa.37.1293550347526; Tue, 28 Dec 2010 07:32:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org (digitalkingdom.org [173.13.139.234]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id f13si14501022wfo.0.2010.12.28.07.32.27 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Tue, 28 Dec 2010 07:32:27 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org designates 173.13.139.234 as permitted sender) client-ip=173.13.139.234; Received: from rlpowell by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1PXbXG-0001qa-CW for lojban@googlegroups.com; Tue, 28 Dec 2010 07:32:26 -0800 Date: Tue, 28 Dec 2010 07:32:26 -0800 From: Robin Lee Powell To: lojban@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: [lojban-announcements] Help with CLLv1.1 needed. Mostly does *NOT* require Lojban skill. Message-ID: <20101228153226.GF8001@digitalkingdom.org> References: <20101220023210.GP24603@digitalkingdom.org> <20101220032552.GA47011@alice.local> <20101220034848.GT24603@digitalkingdom.org> <20101228145628.GE8001@digitalkingdom.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-Original-Sender: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org designates 173.13.139.234 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline On Tue, Dec 28, 2010 at 03:24:32PM +0000, Matthew Walton wrote: > On 28 December 2010 15:19, Matthew Walton > wrote: > > On 28 December 2010 14:56, Robin Lee Powell > > wrote: > >> On Tue, Dec 28, 2010 at 02:34:13PM +0000, Matthew Walton wrote: > >>> Question: the TODO file says "Make sure the interlinear-gloss > >>> bits look right". What's 'right'? > >> > >> Look at section 5.1 and 5.2. > >> > >>> What I think I'm seeing is an inconsistency in when > >>> something's marked up as .. or .., but > >>> I'm not sure what it's supposed to be or indeed if that's even > >>> what you mean us to do here. > >> > >> jbo should wrap Lojban bits that should be glossed per-word. > >> gloss should wrap the English per-word gloss. en should wrap > >> the plain/colloquial English. > >> > >> If you don't have at least two parts of those, change > >> to , because it isn't one. > > > > Thanks Robin. Onward to markup perfection! > > Oh look I have another question about this. This is probably my > fault for choosing Chapter 3, but: Chapter 3 is already being worked on; probably better to pick one somewhere in the middle. > > bisydja > BI,sy,dja > BI,syd,ja > > > That's not really a Lojban + gloss + English set, is it? It's a > progressive examination of pronunciation. Are we happy to overload > like this, should it be changed to something else, or should I > just ignore it for now? (or a fourth option I haven't thought of, > of course). It should be changed, either to simplelist or itemizedlist, but see above. -Robin -- http://singinst.org/ : Our last, best hope for a fantastic future. Lojban (http://www.lojban.org/): The language in which "this parrot is dead" is "ti poi spitaki cu morsi", but "this sentence is false" is "na nei". My personal page: http://www.digitalkingdom.org/rlp/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en.