From lojban+bncCJ2UzZHuDRDUvODnBBoEIdY6sg@googlegroups.com Thu Dec 02 14:32:03 2010 Received: from mail-wy0-f189.google.com ([74.125.82.189]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1POHgz-0006zH-QA; Thu, 02 Dec 2010 14:32:02 -0800 Received: by wyb35 with SMTP id 35sf6963931wyb.16 for ; Thu, 02 Dec 2010 14:31:51 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:mime-version:received:received :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=wXMUZPkrn1dLkEmV/w2/9d1umRCbBjTg3Pyvwbg10Rg=; b=TK+G6H4qY++uaLnT4lSw9xT1rPG5ZZzUGPh3ZfO3/BvfHoTqeUJc3hf/tgn8THGuSw XJ4yy8kLspyCqRZ/ZCgPBRDCs97Q4iQlYxSZNKCl1E1XuHPgqzy6Jc3wXEZ5OBgIqvv/ Mha36f68EUX3ebm+Q9rb//Zc1KmtPWmGenJ1c= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=DJBOGNq1EKF0DtlMfInxR9oZx568EelgT1bmAQY+MGK58Tcr+KwLA3y4AnEWxe1wIn yuf8VF+4JUoDbOxaQ5jnnctOu4ksDbkJLgoD7ElQN6cSXav6YkSp0n0xsbS5XIwtImYr SeOyjgWm3PZpHkSUwa4PPphfU3LwwV7f7UeB4= Received: by 10.216.28.207 with SMTP id g57mr10777wea.5.1291329108024; Thu, 02 Dec 2010 14:31:48 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.227.6.216 with SMTP id a24ls2313631wba.2.p; Thu, 02 Dec 2010 14:31:47 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.227.152.148 with SMTP id g20mr37792wbw.12.1291329107134; Thu, 02 Dec 2010 14:31:47 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.227.152.148 with SMTP id g20mr37791wbw.12.1291329107008; Thu, 02 Dec 2010 14:31:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-ww0-f49.google.com (mail-ww0-f49.google.com [74.125.82.49]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id h9si136975wbe.0.2010.12.02.14.31.45; Thu, 02 Dec 2010 14:31:46 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 74.125.82.49 as permitted sender) client-ip=74.125.82.49; Received: by wwb17 with SMTP id 17so620653wwb.18 for ; Thu, 02 Dec 2010 14:31:45 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.227.143.18 with SMTP id s18mr966984wbu.112.1291329104939; Thu, 02 Dec 2010 14:31:44 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.227.138.16 with HTTP; Thu, 2 Dec 2010 14:31:44 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <685026.21857.qm@web81307.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <659354.26852.qm@web81304.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <604115.16202.qm@web81305.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <752705.36302.qm@web81307.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <822423.65423.qm@web81301.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <605319.19000.qm@web81306.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <433664.89554.qm@web81307.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <906301.34622.qm@web81302.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <306693.13766.qm@web81301.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <164975.71420.qm@web81302.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <575924.12596.qm@web81308.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <577940.60375.qm@web81307.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <638130.69866.qm@web81308.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <685026.21857.qm@web81307.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 2 Dec 2010 19:31:44 -0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] Time for the perenial other-centric-.ui conversation From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?= To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: jjllambias@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 74.125.82.49 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=jjllambias@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Thu, Dec 2, 2010 at 5:16 PM, John E Clifford wrote: > The bridiness of 'pei' and its answer is not > a sticking point but a place where I am still uncomfortable, because it looks > like something it is not (of course, you may think it is what it looks like and > I don't. I don't see any bridiness in "pei". It has nothing to do with any propositions. It just indicates a request from speaker to listener to express themself in a certain scale. No bridis need be involved on the part of either participant. mu'o mi'e xorxes -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en.