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Subject: Re: [lojban] orc and ogre


2010/12/4 Jorge Llamb=EDas <jjllambias@gmail.com>

On Sat, Dec 4, 2010 at 7:43 AM, Remo Dentato <rdentato@gmail.com> wrote:
>> I'm not clear on the difference between an orc and an ogre
>
>I think the two main differences are their size, ogres are much larger
>than humans, while orcs are more human size, and their social habits,
>ogres are usually found alone, while orcs tend to appear in large
>groups. What is the proper collective noun for orcs? Pack of orcs?
>

I don't know, but the collective noun for women is "conspiracy". :)
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>(in Italian
>> they both translate to "orco"). If i'm not mistaken in the Italian
>> translation of Tolkien's "The Lord of Rings" for orc they used the
>> word "orchetto" which I really dislike (it means "little orc").
>>
>> Any idea on how to render the difference in Lojban?
>
>I would suggest ".orko" and ".ogro", but they are both types of crida,
>so you could make a lujvo with that. ".ogro" are also a type of
>"brabracrida".
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>mu'o mi'e xorxes
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ad><body><div style=3D"font-family:times new roman,new york,times,serif;fon=
t-size:12pt">Regimen - John Knox (and countless other jokes since)<br><div>=
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imes,serif; font-size: 12pt;"><font face=3D"Tahoma" size=3D"2"><hr size=3D"=
1"><b><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">From:</span></b> Jonathan Jones &l=
t;eyeonus@gmail.com&gt;<br><b><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">To:</span>=
</b> lojban@googlegroups.com<br><b><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">Sent:=
</span></b> Sat, December 4, 2010 9:39:21 AM<br><b><span style=3D"font-weig=
ht: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [lojban] orc and ogre<br></font><br>
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">2010/12/4 Jorge Llamb=EDas <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt=
;<a rel=3D"nofollow" ymailto=3D"mailto:jjllambias@gmail.com" target=3D"_bla=
nk" href=3D"mailto:jjllambias@gmail.com">jjllambias@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span=
><br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; =
border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
<div class=3D"im">On Sat, Dec 4, 2010 at 7:43 AM, Remo Dentato &lt;<a rel=
=3D"nofollow" ymailto=3D"mailto:rdentato@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank" href=
=3D"mailto:rdentato@gmail.com">rdentato@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt; I'm not clear on the difference between an orc and an ogre<br>
<br>
</div>I think the two main differences are their size, ogres are much large=
r<br>
than humans, while orcs are more human size, and their social habits,<br>
ogres are usually found alone, while orcs tend to appear in large<br>
groups. What is the proper collective noun for orcs? Pack of orcs?<br></blo=
ckquote><div><br>I don't know, but the collective noun for women is "conspi=
racy". :)<br>&nbsp;</div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:=
 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left=
: 1ex;">
<div class=3D"im">
&gt;(in Italian<br>
&gt; they both translate to "orco"). If i'm not mistaken in the Italian<br>
&gt; translation of Tolkien's "The Lord of Rings" for orc they used the<br>
&gt; word "orchetto" which I really dislike (it means "little orc").<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Any idea on how to render the difference in Lojban?<br>
<br>
</div>I would suggest ".orko" and ".ogro", but they are both types of crida=
,<br>
so you could make a lujvo with that. ".ogro" are also a type of<br>
"brabracrida".<br>
<br>
mu'o mi'e xorxes<br>
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