From lojban+bncCK7Yk5CUCxCGpf3nBBoEwxeLOg@googlegroups.com Wed Dec 08 01:40:41 2010 Received: from mail-qw0-f61.google.com ([209.85.216.61]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1PQGVk-00053i-SI; Wed, 08 Dec 2010 01:40:41 -0800 Received: by qwd6 with SMTP id 6sf3567379qwd.16 for ; Wed, 08 Dec 2010 01:40:27 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:mime-version:received:received:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=0eNp+2+eUP0aSWcm11HkW8jFKd92r+IMCS1avX+oyMY=; b=A+1dzii6Wkr3oQGK1xzUdXLWk6IRWWU+Ou9LZ/oh5EFpr/LXWWjy/8aNlH0p6trH0w OyGKZispE4auSqwrXvehE15b8aFGizfJU6Hbeh4S2AnruGwbqwXBwL/n6FimAJjPa6Ww hiHDVVeSS5SQGkQYjWUV3RTPPgfWoQcZvupHc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from :to:x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=aV6SI1DdTU3P/I8ovmloFUbRMv6/ANSu34J8B6rmhngSOmdcHr49ldRubt0oo3ML/z HTmfqqNdV2wY522hURQs2a6+FIJghVj8eUtNylUUdDUv/cdooKEeRZFeKwvPCJvmr0o8 +gX3aP52HSf24xw2YzvG4ztxe46TGJxNlJ/fY= Received: by 10.229.78.67 with SMTP id j3mr92644qck.19.1291801222481; Wed, 08 Dec 2010 01:40:22 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.229.56.161 with SMTP id y33ls227377qcg.1.p; Wed, 08 Dec 2010 01:40:21 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.229.192.15 with SMTP id do15mr1060089qcb.22.1291801221922; Wed, 08 Dec 2010 01:40:21 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.229.192.15 with SMTP id do15mr1060088qcb.22.1291801221890; Wed, 08 Dec 2010 01:40:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-vw0-f50.google.com (mail-vw0-f50.google.com [209.85.212.50]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id ey28si75731qcb.15.2010.12.08.01.40.20; Wed, 08 Dec 2010 01:40:20 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of rdentato@gmail.com designates 209.85.212.50 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.212.50; Received: by vws14 with SMTP id 14so768527vws.37 for ; Wed, 08 Dec 2010 01:40:20 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.235.4 with SMTP id ke4mr7204405qcb.201.1291801220658; Wed, 08 Dec 2010 01:40:20 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.229.227.73 with HTTP; Wed, 8 Dec 2010 01:40:20 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 8 Dec 2010 10:40:20 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: [lojban] conditional and hypotetical sentences From: Remo Dentato To: lojban X-Original-Sender: rdentato@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of rdentato@gmail.com designates 209.85.212.50 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=rdentato@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 After having read CLL 14 many times, I'm still very confused on Lojban connectives. Specifically I don't get how I can consistenly translate hypotetical and conditional sentences. For example: "If I had wings, I could fly" "If you study, you will learn" And also more complicated (with tenses) "If you had gone to the store, we wouln't have to eat pizza tonight" It seems to me that {nu'o} and {pu'i} should play a role here but I could not tell why! Anyone could shed a light on this? Or direct me to material I can look at? Remo -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en.