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To: lojban@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: 2011 jbonunsla planning (was Re: [lojban] Semantic Representation of Lojban) Message-ID: <20110106210000.GG27821@alice.local> Mail-Followup-To: lojban@googlegroups.com References: <20110106204534.GF27821@alice.local> <20110106204813.GI23787@digitalkingdom.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20110106204813.GI23787@digitalkingdom.org> X-Original-Sender: alyn.post@lodockikumazvati.org X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: 209.85.213.50 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of alanpost@sunflowerriver.org) smtp.mail=alanpost@sunflowerriver.org Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline On Thu, Jan 06, 2011 at 12:48:13PM -0800, Robin Lee Powell wrote: > Suggestions as to time, and in particular whether it should be > conjoined with an SF convention or just a bunch of Lojbanists in a > room together, would be very welcome. > > I have a mild preference for the latter, but it gets draining after > a while. > Being away from my home over May Day is a huge compromise for me, so I have not done it in years past. I've gotten to the point where I'm *willing* to do so, but if I had anything like a choice, I'd pick any other weekend. If I have a real for actual choice of weekends, I'll send you my ordered choices. My preference would be to meet specifically for Lojban, I'm not interested in a SF/other convention going on, save as a means for getting people into the Lojban room. As to format, I would love to see an unconference/open space/agile format. It is something I understand and am engaged by, but I caveat that I have a specific stack of things I'm interested in talking about, and that format would allow me a platform for doing so. Reviewing the memory of my notes (alas, they aren't in front of me) conference planning suggest we'd need at least two rooms, a break room with food/water and misc discussion/checking out and a topic room for focused and engaged conversation constrained by a timebox. I don't have a sense for the minimum number of people needed to make something like this effective, but my sense is that as we approach or cross that lower bound having an SF convention around us would allow a release for the kind of drain a small participant count would incur. Which means, Lojbanistan, that I need you to come to jbonunsla and save me from that fate! -Alan -- .i ko djuno fi le do sevzi -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en.