From lojban+bncCMHEmaCOBhD44ZnpBBoEZKvAhQ@googlegroups.com Thu Jan 06 17:48:53 2011 Received: from mail-gw0-f61.google.com ([74.125.83.61]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Pb1Ri-0000YT-JC; Thu, 06 Jan 2011 17:48:53 -0800 Received: by gwj17 with SMTP id 17sf15815945gwj.16 for ; Thu, 06 Jan 2011 17:48:44 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:mime-version:received:received :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=7/5wanWMoIKjvl+r0imDeEQYH3kwo9kzs/GqlXNh2g8=; b=QwWx6QsekEX5lBzgXKN8QViujrN5zrdW+HjJ7xpBbmF+30quCEAwKfvCiWaYgM2u6+ D5yPb/BzSqjCVDU57sRO7oqMwVeayhHJHDatnK4YRKN1d7Y6DO096vUDA5HRqlGpBoEd axm/vBAvNWXmis+xyhqmVk1Wd6jisUN0ClDGE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=zFpdFcTdUq3of7ZmsfAibx7vCvpCgu1UVVeK3wSHT1gW8iSMoRNdSmhV97QzY1wGnv fjUKbdJSwArxnPUrXZca9F2HQBolk+INCiZTjefImu8Zcvil8dVB5iELL/xvsWUPxayL sa9PX+41ONQdYMUdXqBsuwt7Qs9QmSOqOAnVA= Received: by 10.236.110.166 with SMTP id u26mr247930yhg.0.1294364920836; Thu, 06 Jan 2011 17:48:40 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.231.76.225 with SMTP id d33ls201548ibk.2.p; Thu, 06 Jan 2011 17:48:39 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.231.160.209 with SMTP id o17mr1079476ibx.19.1294364919885; Thu, 06 Jan 2011 17:48:39 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.231.160.209 with SMTP id o17mr1079475ibx.19.1294364919853; Thu, 06 Jan 2011 17:48:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-iy0-f172.google.com (mail-iy0-f172.google.com [209.85.210.172]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id j25si5605980ibb.4.2011.01.06.17.48.38; Thu, 06 Jan 2011 17:48:38 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 209.85.210.172 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.210.172; Received: by mail-iy0-f172.google.com with SMTP id 42so17209124iyi.17 for ; Thu, 06 Jan 2011 17:48:38 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.199.133 with SMTP id es5mr2787481ibb.93.1294364918705; Thu, 06 Jan 2011 17:48:38 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.231.199.140 with HTTP; Thu, 6 Jan 2011 17:48:38 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <9114501.161.1294150198377.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@yqhy19> <7c0687a1-deba-495a-9760-95d1d0649423@t8g2000prh.googlegroups.com> <20110105165231.GK17534@digitalkingdom.org> <20110105220532.GN17534@digitalkingdom.org> <673286.9022.qm@web81303.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2011 18:48:38 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Lojban is *NOT* broken! 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(was Re: [lojban] Re: Vote for the Future Global Language) From: Jonathan Jones To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: eyeonus@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 209.85.210.172 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=eyeonus@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=90e6ba4fc27a306de7049937d165 --90e6ba4fc27a306de7049937d165 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable 2011/1/6 Jorge Llamb=EDas > On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 10:06 PM, John E Clifford > wrote: > > > > This is one of those little problems that needs to be solved, so the th= e > answers: cream, sugar, both or neither are all correct. > > Hasn't this been solved for ages? The answer is that question-or is > neither ".a" nor ".onai". Question-or is "ji", and the four helpful > answers are ".enai", "na.e", ".e" and "na.enai". (There are also > plenty of true but less than helpful answers, of course, but that's > the case for any question.) > > mu'o mi'e xorxes > So, not {xu do djica lo nu lo kruji .a lo sakta cu nenri lo ckafi}, but {do djica lo nu lo kruji ji lo sakta cu nenri lo ckafi}? --=20 mu'o mi'e .aionys. .i.a'o.e'e ko cmima le bende pe lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu d= o zo'o (Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D ) --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegrou= ps.com. 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2011/1/6 Jorge Llamb=EDas <jjllambias@gmail.com>= ;
On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 10:06 PM, John E Clifford <kali9putra@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> This is one of those little problems that needs to be solved, so the t= he answers: cream, sugar, both or neither are all correct.

Hasn't this been solved for ages? The answer is that question-or = is
neither ".a" nor ".onai". Question-or is "ji"= , and the four helpful
answers are ".enai", "na.e", ".e" and "n= a.enai". (There are also
plenty of true but less than helpful answers, of course, but that's
the case for any question.)

mu'o mi'e xorxes

So, not
{xu do djic= a lo nu lo kruji .a lo sakta cu nenri lo ckafi}, but
{do djica lo nu lo = kruji ji lo sakta cu nenri lo ckafi}?

--
mu'o = mi'e .aionys.

.i.a'o.e'e ko cmima le bende pe lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk= . mi patfu do zo'o
(Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D= )

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