From lojban+bncCK30vq5WEIXkmekEGgSlVi72@googlegroups.com Thu Jan 06 17:53:22 2011 Received: from mail-pz0-f61.google.com ([209.85.210.61]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Pb1W2-0000fX-UP; Thu, 06 Jan 2011 17:53:22 -0800 Received: by pzk9 with SMTP id 9sf4574301pzk.16 for ; Thu, 06 Jan 2011 17:53:13 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:date:from:to:subject:message-id :references:mime-version:in-reply-to:user-agent:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type:content-disposition :content-transfer-encoding; bh=5JSM1EimmLOvwj2N/E9c+MAWOWsgvn1dqbcBaCxtitg=; b=u0wNChsaXJhODrqR6reFNCPtY9x1MJyjGX4QXMmUSgIeQwlsdgoBrnFQhhirvd7VZj a2A346NrpRrg6B/PIPobFN7sCwNMjICYhsRaHufCjs/nwmsTwAQlPIMjMBBo58O6mgeR dQ0ZX5/BbgNa9NQkiT/OkyLVM2/3zw7if6CeQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:date:from:to:subject:message-id:references :mime-version:in-reply-to:user-agent:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type:content-disposition :content-transfer-encoding; b=Pg0HmY9YJOHX92Nw25uZzArNZnj+8JMFtDazJpM3LCXeU2CXwEPhQ/dR/pKYznOLXN Wl4AVlLcjD42y5eh5xIOUH4qvHIKnnouSfHvdbzLLa2qARUxHNLKYhzK4XPxU8/+u8LO 0lFZUlijc+RlEQTjQj+4Ha+Fy95j5aAU4kN50= Received: by 10.142.65.4 with SMTP id n4mr110726wfa.19.1294365189855; Thu, 06 Jan 2011 17:53:09 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.142.97.18 with SMTP id u18ls1717568wfb.2.p; Thu, 06 Jan 2011 17:53:07 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.142.180.21 with SMTP id c21mr1276347wff.41.1294365186973; Thu, 06 Jan 2011 17:53:06 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.142.180.21 with SMTP id c21mr1276346wff.41.1294365186948; Thu, 06 Jan 2011 17:53:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org (digitalkingdom.org [173.13.139.234]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id f13si1638300wfo.4.2011.01.06.17.53.06 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Thu, 06 Jan 2011 17:53:06 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org designates 173.13.139.234 as permitted sender) client-ip=173.13.139.234; Received: from rlpowell by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Pb1Vq-0000fU-3c for lojban@googlegroups.com; Thu, 06 Jan 2011 17:53:06 -0800 Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2011 17:53:06 -0800 From: Robin Lee Powell To: lojban@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Lojban is *NOT* broken! Stop saying that! (was Re: [lojban] Re: Vote for the Future Global Language) Message-ID: <20110107015306.GQ23787@digitalkingdom.org> References: <673286.9022.qm@web81303.mail.mud.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-Original-Sender: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org designates 173.13.139.234 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Jan 06, 2011 at 06:48:38PM -0700, Jonathan Jones wrote: > 2011/1/6 Jorge Llamb=EDas >=20 > > On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 10:06 PM, John E Clifford > > wrote: > > > > > > This is one of those little problems that needs to be solved, > > > so the the > > answers: cream, sugar, both or neither are all correct. > > > > Hasn't this been solved for ages? The answer is that question-or > > is neither ".a" nor ".onai". Question-or is "ji", and the four > > helpful answers are ".enai", "na.e", ".e" and "na.enai". (There > > are also plenty of true but less than helpful answers, of > > course, but that's the case for any question.) > > > > mu'o mi'e xorxes > > >=20 > So, not {xu do djica lo nu lo kruji .a lo sakta cu nenri lo > ckafi}, but {do djica lo nu lo kruji ji lo sakta cu nenri lo > ckafi}? Correct. IIRC, this is, in fact, an example in the CLL. -Robin --=20 http://singinst.org/ : Our last, best hope for a fantastic future. Lojban (http://www.lojban.org/): The language in which "this parrot is dead" is "ti poi spitaki cu morsi", but "this sentence is false" is "na nei". My personal page: http://www.digitalkingdom.org/rlp/ --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. 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