From lojban+bncCOjSjrXVGBC37ZzpBBoEtl7IAg@googlegroups.com Fri Jan 07 07:52:39 2011 Received: from mail-gw0-f61.google.com ([74.125.83.61]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1PbEcD-0005G7-9m; Fri, 07 Jan 2011 07:52:39 -0800 Received: by gwj17 with SMTP id 17sf16385982gwj.16 for ; Fri, 07 Jan 2011 07:52:27 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:mime-version:received:received :received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=54IrlUiT+YiB+t0nLy7rcCj3wtO24LM3DsxtJzaTlts=; b=RcoC+7xlRzcDyOcOUGCaCJY0JuVhClrLhmTqaJjus3530Nbgt60pY8/RLxwpAnUm6G LfiG0thCoj+6iqsVdd3C+VtD0riJUWlrDXJR0YMopCMpJP1p+Q+Rl8YTRxqXIBZsZ93u 3eV27amAB5qJ3Bzmj9m5ppvib/dllw1Un96po= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=Rgx5HCjNKWgQLkvQ3215kBAJGlQrTJRO6mr39PBB4GllYzCUhsbcCciJy1MJq62Z4K Jqa4KtfTMkKEfNb3p4zPY6QyUBSScp7k4glgiU72VqOTij9SvnQ616xqAZJRsHPvio2O cfVZPJWoEDSk/+FuQfZqyEn9aiaOHy6xYPCzY= Received: by 10.90.49.4 with SMTP id w4mr234012agw.30.1294415543618; Fri, 07 Jan 2011 07:52:23 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.231.76.225 with SMTP id d33ls597009ibk.2.p; Fri, 07 Jan 2011 07:52:22 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.231.16.131 with SMTP id o3mr3870843iba.18.1294415540520; Fri, 07 Jan 2011 07:52:20 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.231.16.131 with SMTP id o3mr3870842iba.18.1294415540465; Fri, 07 Jan 2011 07:52:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-iw0-f171.google.com (mail-iw0-f171.google.com [209.85.214.171]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id m30si5776880ibu.6.2011.01.07.07.52.19 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Fri, 07 Jan 2011 07:52:19 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of lukeabergen@gmail.com designates 209.85.214.171 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.214.171; Received: by iwn2 with SMTP id 2so16946947iwn.30 for ; Fri, 07 Jan 2011 07:52:19 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.13.137 with SMTP id c9mr25556950iba.37.1294415539316; Fri, 07 Jan 2011 07:52:19 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.231.14.197 with HTTP; Fri, 7 Jan 2011 07:52:19 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.231.14.197 with HTTP; Fri, 7 Jan 2011 07:52:19 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <201101070534.50987.phma@phma.optus.nu> References: <201101070534.50987.phma@phma.optus.nu> Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 10:52:19 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] ckafi preti From: Luke Bergen To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: lukeabergen@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of lukeabergen@gmail.com designates 209.85.214.171 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=lukeabergen@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0022150467ef69a7e00499439a6e --0022150467ef69a7e00499439a6e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I think you're forgeting, pierre, it's 7 hours now that you've been on your feet. Do you really care at this point? I have been in diners where the question is something more like "cree *slurred grunt* sug". When you're in a mental state such that you don't even really care about getting your phonemes correct I have a feeling that you /really/ don't care that it should probably be sumti and not selbri that you're using Also, thanks for pointing out je'i. Up till now I had thought (for some silly reason) that ji pulled double duty since .i was already taken and couldn't be used for sumti conection question. On Jan 7, 2011 5:34 AM, "Pierre Abbat" wrote: > On Friday 07 January 2011 04:27:19 Oleksii Melnyk wrote: >> However under the current grammar it should be either "lo sakta ji lo >> kurji" or "sakta je'i kurji", afair. > > "lo sakta ji lo kruji" is correct. If you ask "sakta je'i kruji", and get the > answer "je", that means that something is both cream and sugar, which doesn't > exist. "sakta je'i kruji", with answer "joi", implies that the restaurant has > a premixed cream-and-sugar. > > Pierre > -- > I believe in Yellow when I'm in Sweden and in Black when I'm in Wales. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com . > For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. --0022150467ef69a7e00499439a6e Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I think you're forgeting, pierre, it's 7 hours now that you'= ve been on your feet.=A0 Do you really care at this point?

I have been in diners where the question is something more like "cr= ee *slurred grunt* sug".=A0 When you're in a mental state such tha= t you don't even really care about getting your phonemes correct I have= a feeling that you /really/ don't care that it should probably be sumt= i and not selbri that you're using

Also, thanks for pointing out je'i.=A0 Up till now I had thought (fo= r some silly reason) that ji pulled double duty since .i was already taken = and couldn't be used for sumti conection question.

On Jan 7, 2011 5:34 AM, "Pierre Abbat"= <phma@phma.optus.nu> wrote= :
> On Friday 07 January 2011 04:27:19 Oleksii M= elnyk wrote:
>> However under the current grammar it should be either "lo sak= ta ji lo
>> kurji" or "sakta je'i kurji", afair= .
>
> "lo sakta ji lo kruji" is correct. If you ask = "sakta je'i kruji", and get the
> answer "je", that means that something is both cream and sug= ar, which doesn't
> exist. "sakta je'i kruji", wit= h answer "joi", implies that the restaurant has
> a premix= ed cream-and-sugar.
>
> Pierre
> --
> I believe in Yellow when I'm i= n Sweden and in Black when I'm in Wales.
>
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