From lojban+bncCO-q2omxARDSp53pBBoEcyTSkg@googlegroups.com Fri Jan 07 09:56:48 2011 Received: from mail-qy0-f189.google.com ([209.85.216.189]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1PbGYO-0006fV-KW; Fri, 07 Jan 2011 09:56:48 -0800 Received: by qyk1 with SMTP id 1sf58252709qyk.16 for ; Fri, 07 Jan 2011 09:56:38 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:mime-version :received:received:date:in-reply-to:x-ip:references:user-agent :x-http-useragent:message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help :list-archive:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=BDsf7O1ESrDEjWhO7UrQg17Yge3e/vTCDtptZJM0wZM=; b=JnNWvnn2EA0By+Xx3bh/dB10qbBDfWXMfDYxtt10FjPq/ojTp/z0bJpfl8cHfsE/rW GEHj6fptX8V6Z6Kop7UY6pl/4t8ZkXasNnyItGxLyuh5cfFfFzQLth28xoo0BfOLc0cl oiw5lkFRopq4b4IokR2j0s9P23yZ1M2fHvZpc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:mime-version:date:in-reply-to:x-ip:references :user-agent:x-http-useragent:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=oT+gqohQlFhVgpaaUJJOcBohM0OTcqD6t6F1bJQEzLQcb4M6h/nzMsTWNUPLgaLL1V oddT4V6lhRSC1HGXYykO1QQqRc6z+2ROaWo26nGxTRwn1F+4ekVWcAav+c5lB5/LnNvW BuUNCzWFLcf7DJlwnhnR05JRTb3FRuSOGFJl0= Received: by 10.229.111.74 with SMTP id r10mr3626444qcp.6.1294422994605; Fri, 07 Jan 2011 09:56:34 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.224.176.70 with SMTP id bd6ls4099170qab.5.p; Fri, 07 Jan 2011 09:56:33 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.224.80.205 with SMTP id u13mr163902qak.6.1294422993507; Fri, 07 Jan 2011 09:56:33 -0800 (PST) Received: by w29g2000vba.googlegroups.com with HTTP; Fri, 7 Jan 2011 09:56:33 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 09:56:33 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: X-IP: 86.74.92.227 References: <333436a0-9719-42c8-93ca-de86cc25b5af@d7g2000vbv.googlegroups.com> User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.0; en-US) AppleWebKit/534.10 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/8.0.552.224 Safari/534.10,gzip(gfe) Message-ID: Subject: [lojban] Re: FA + (JA or JOI) + FA_or_BAI_or-other-modal-place-introducers From: "spermwhale.warrior" To: lojban X-Original-Sender: guerrier.cachalot@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I'm very confused. But not very surprised ... That's right, it is not part of my habits to talk or write english, because I'm french, and seventeen moreover. And I can not speak english around me. It is so frustrating and not helping learning at all ! But this list which is the only very active, is in english, so I must try. Michael: you clearly understood what I meant to express with my poor english. But my use of {joi} in {mi fijoibai do jmive zei lifri} isn't arbitrary : {joi} means "mixed-in-a-mass-with" so you split it into {mi fi do bai jmive zei lifri}. {do} is in a place which meaning is a mix of "fi'o jmive fe'u" and "bai". And so forth with other connectives. There can be a distributive connection(logical connectives), or not. I think my construct can here be split into {mi joigi fi do jmive zei lifri gi bai do jmive zei lifri} But we have to decide(and I've an idee about the answer) : could {jmive zei lifri fi do bai do} be splited in two bridi linked with only a plain {.i}, with {.ijebo} or even with {.iju'ebo}(I never never saw this form, but it's grammatical however). IMHO we should consider {.ijebo} to be the standart way of splitting the new found way to connect FA and other FAs or BAI. If you want the sens {bu'a bai da .i bu'a fo da} you should write {bu'a baiju'efo da} -- la brabenvaxda'u balsoi -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en.