From lojban+bncCK30vq5WEPfZnekEGgQzDIH-@googlegroups.com Fri Jan 07 11:44:04 2011 Received: from mail-pw0-f61.google.com ([209.85.160.61]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1PbIEB-0007d3-Ar; Fri, 07 Jan 2011 11:44:04 -0800 Received: by pwi2 with SMTP id 2sf5474360pwi.16 for ; Fri, 07 Jan 2011 11:43:53 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:date:from:to:subject:message-id :references:mime-version:in-reply-to:user-agent:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type:content-disposition; bh=jYbqJul9hXFAQ/+FtDDh/u7oLOb58YldPZddRlJBfyg=; b=DY2VuzXnlmWi5uKIta4G0FHdltgIZlrIJu6JNUFY0gkuZiW0sAb3AbhTFIJX0Af881 uiZ+IsxekuQdOsqQwiQSrnqovNtDVGhSZwg78S35HCMNb2Ky00cqT5GJ1aKwFqgwW7uF iz5AriqFXcttDEbvkgUHpclFVzRhKamEniLa4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:date:from:to:subject:message-id:references :mime-version:in-reply-to:user-agent:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type:content-disposition; b=E7qqqZsm0wp9nlLfH4yC1qZZmhI94wAApguoSf/ofkAFS42u5+e9seHIY2mbCVj5ce fp3vi2viN4vgHDZ6QW4WZijHJ2zE+Qf/FqHdNnw4FyEi58Q8644f17J4GgNB3N9PgxcP s4FaT6v51rjIOZzkTV0aKaf5iPvSHJ1SVxxsg= Received: by 10.143.85.5 with SMTP id n5mr150673wfl.39.1294429431082; Fri, 07 Jan 2011 11:43:51 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.142.249.41 with SMTP id w41ls30162925wfh.1.p; Fri, 07 Jan 2011 11:43:50 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.142.204.13 with SMTP id b13mr1981724wfg.67.1294429430462; Fri, 07 Jan 2011 11:43:50 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.142.204.13 with SMTP id b13mr1981722wfg.67.1294429430432; Fri, 07 Jan 2011 11:43:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org (digitalkingdom.org [173.13.139.234]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id w13si2581467wfh.7.2011.01.07.11.43.50 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Fri, 07 Jan 2011 11:43:50 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org designates 173.13.139.234 as permitted sender) client-ip=173.13.139.234; Received: from rlpowell by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1PbIE1-0007cq-8m for lojban@googlegroups.com; Fri, 07 Jan 2011 11:43:49 -0800 Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 11:43:49 -0800 From: Robin Lee Powell To: lojban@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Cake, Pie or Ice Cream? (was: Re: Lojban is *NOT* broken! Stop saying that! (was Re: [lojban] Re: Vote for the Future Global Language)) Message-ID: <20110107194348.GT23787@digitalkingdom.org> References: <673286.9022.qm@web81303.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <294930.94884.qm@web81304.mail.mud.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <294930.94884.qm@web81304.mail.mud.yahoo.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-Original-Sender: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org designates 173.13.139.234 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline On Fri, Jan 07, 2011 at 07:53:57AM -0800, John E Clifford wrote: > The 'ji' solution to the choice question is very Logjamish; it is > easy to picture JCB cackling with glee over it. But it raises > (not "begs" gawdammit) some further questions, all of which have > been raised before and probably solved. But, I don't remember the > solutions and they may not be in the consciousness of many > less-than-decades Lojbanists: > > 1. What is the question to which "cream", "sugar, "neither" or > "both" are *answers*, not merely side remarks that happen to do > the job answers are meant to do? Differing from other answers, I would do "do djica ma poi mi setca ke'a le ckafi". > 2) How does (or indeed, just "Does") the 'ji' solution extend to > cases of three or more choice items, as in the subject line? I *believe* it works fine as long as you stick with {.e}, but I am not sure and have made a note on the appropriate bpfk page. Assuming {mi djica lo ladru .e nai lo sakta na .e lo titnanba} means "I want milk and a donut, but not sugar", then it seems to me that {do djica lo ladru ji lo sakta ji lo titnanba}, responded to with {.e nai na .e} would DTRT. Bonus points: how do you reply to {do djica lo ladru ji nai lo sakta} if you want both? :D > 3) What about extending the solution to 1 above to more than two > cases? Well, *my* solution has an infinity of possible responses. :D If you want to see it with limited possible responses, see others' versions. -- http://singinst.org/ : Our last, best hope for a fantastic future. Lojban (http://www.lojban.org/): The language in which "this parrot is dead" is "ti poi spitaki cu morsi", but "this sentence is false" is "na nei". My personal page: http://www.digitalkingdom.org/rlp/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en.