From lojban+bncCMHEmaCOBhDAqZ7pBBoE30-C9w@googlegroups.com Fri Jan 07 14:33:53 2011 Received: from mail-gw0-f61.google.com ([74.125.83.61]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1PbKsV-00021e-Qy; Fri, 07 Jan 2011 14:33:53 -0800 Received: by gwj17 with SMTP id 17sf16651856gwj.16 for ; Fri, 07 Jan 2011 14:33:41 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:mime-version:received:received :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=pPX8I3FVWslmAUaUdagT8v+GYPSG+V0MyMTfvqh0LfI=; b=EaOllSo5sDFMML1keS4GRU8gpQuNKXbUlTWfi4155pooIvbQcGZHGPBVZAZyIXblx8 Cw7ftLw/JlFOX5hbZJYrp28fWouWr87AHFVkSJt7rRXjdoOXF36ZTI7a+bI64N/of9ru aEiF+KxZcHcxRlZg+KuxWIO/zYBN+O+LX+05o= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=unzHGaeYaI+g0SAIQm66wRICUz3Sx51Ov9O+gYCswKkBlqOEZJ61z3GYI1/Cs28+SA L26hu+AgkOrygkMXV2p8PQ1mmEN4rem4Y+SZhkH9eW3BAm75dOMZcqEI/pZA20plGrwI jk3AXy1YsC3fNHh6eEQAZJ7MlbI2q1jPZ0lNk= Received: by 10.91.35.16 with SMTP id n16mr266762agj.38.1294439616632; Fri, 07 Jan 2011 14:33:36 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.231.141.220 with SMTP id n28ls930014ibu.0.p; Fri, 07 Jan 2011 14:33:35 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.231.30.202 with SMTP id v10mr10004375ibc.4.1294439615562; Fri, 07 Jan 2011 14:33:35 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.231.30.202 with SMTP id v10mr10004374ibc.4.1294439615516; Fri, 07 Jan 2011 14:33:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-iy0-f177.google.com (mail-iy0-f177.google.com [209.85.210.177]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id cu19si5852465ibb.5.2011.01.07.14.33.34; Fri, 07 Jan 2011 14:33:34 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 209.85.210.177 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.210.177; Received: by iyj21 with SMTP id 21so19906556iyj.22 for ; Fri, 07 Jan 2011 14:33:34 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.35.139 with SMTP id p11mr26143956ibd.143.1294439614411; Fri, 07 Jan 2011 14:33:34 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.231.199.140 with HTTP; Fri, 7 Jan 2011 14:33:33 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <9114501.161.1294150198377.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@yqhy19> <7c0687a1-deba-495a-9760-95d1d0649423@t8g2000prh.googlegroups.com> <20110105165231.GK17534@digitalkingdom.org> <20110105220532.GN17534@digitalkingdom.org> <673286.9022.qm@web81303.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 15:33:33 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Lojban is *NOT* broken! Stop saying that! (was Re: [lojban] Re: Vote for the Future Global Language) From: Jonathan Jones To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: eyeonus@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 209.85.210.177 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=eyeonus@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00221534c9136672ea0499493519 --00221534c9136672ea0499493519 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 7:51 AM, Ivo Doko wrote: > On 7 January 2011 02:06, John E Clifford wrote: > >> It doesn't matter what the waiter emphasized. >> > > You either don't know English well enough or are just ignoring the > importance of emphasizing for the sake of your point. The question is the same regardless of emphasis. Also, in the real world, the question is never an XOR question, so saying "CREAM or SUGAR" does not suggest that the customer can have only one or the other, but merely that the customer is hard of hearing. -- mu'o mi'e .aionys. .i.a'o.e'e ko cmima le bende pe lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o (Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D ) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. --00221534c9136672ea0499493519 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 7:51 AM, Ivo Doko <ivo.doko@gmail.com= > wrote:
On 7 January 2011 02:06, John = E Clifford <kali9putra@yahoo.com> wrote:
It doesn't matter what the waiter emphasized.

You either don't know English well enou= gh or are just ignoring the importance of emphasizing for the sake of your = point.

The question is the same regardless of emphasis.

Also, in = the real world, the question is never an XOR question, so saying "CREA= M or SUGAR" does not suggest that the customer can have only one or th= e other, but merely that the customer is hard of hearing.

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.i.a'o.e'e ko cmima le= bende pe lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o
(Come to= the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D )

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