From lojban+bncCO2dsrjkARChnZ_pBBoETSQVuw@googlegroups.com Fri Jan 07 18:40:48 2011 Received: from mail-qw0-f61.google.com ([209.85.216.61]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1PbOjT-0004w1-Lq; Fri, 07 Jan 2011 18:40:48 -0800 Received: by qwd6 with SMTP id 6sf59583488qwd.16 for ; Fri, 07 Jan 2011 18:40:37 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received:received-spf:received:received:message-id:date :from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=ZD/nFtJf4SbCaTMuTvHYnhb2LGi7Pp3XDCzINUJUeZI=; b=qBNoSn9K223jhy6W2cy1gX2Tzuk6QVCm9lvoSf2W9QP3DAvPdzYL9pqy4g9OiTjSRC t9MlC9NDC1+zYAv8o2JYeanfit/KG2dbGUeZLVZMCF9PdSxlVsk3BAWDzhS8xyjQ8bFD +a1KCacSCcPU9gFDj9yEtnYUTlUOGzWn2SDLc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:message-id:date:from:user-agent :mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=3lbXmQnUi9gSTnJ4dk+7mPf3RiN2ZQm+7Y3GLgR7MliKyfZry91MjJEefrLLffZ1dN c+q3ZB9S8Em2ykmOgozIT1whZbBup6jB4VjEQUsva9uAOigx3C9sLA4pXT5bsrPXz5Li H3h1IHmhCM0Fw72npcyjy94ylig2Pob+ZbQ5E= Received: by 10.229.106.5 with SMTP id v5mr3722674qco.24.1294454433782; Fri, 07 Jan 2011 18:40:33 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.224.179.137 with SMTP id bq9ls4176634qab.6.p; Fri, 07 Jan 2011 18:40:33 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.224.67.72 with SMTP id q8mr1105102qai.13.1294454433407; Fri, 07 Jan 2011 18:40:33 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.220.175.201 with SMTP id bb9mr672121vcb.6.1294416153577; Fri, 07 Jan 2011 08:02:33 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.220.175.201 with SMTP id bb9mr672118vcb.6.1294416153563; Fri, 07 Jan 2011 08:02:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from pi.meson.org (pi.meson.org [96.56.207.26]) by gmr-mx.google.com with SMTP id d14si2271515vbv.1.2011.01.07.08.02.33; Fri, 07 Jan 2011 08:02:33 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 96.56.207.26 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of mark@kli.org) client-ip=96.56.207.26; Received: (qmail 3308 invoked from network); 7 Jan 2011 16:02:32 -0000 Received: from nagas.meson.org (192.168.1.101) by pi.meson.org with SMTP; 7 Jan 2011 16:02:32 -0000 Message-ID: <4D273918.5060001@kli.org> Date: Fri, 07 Jan 2011 11:02:32 -0500 From: "Mark E. Shoulson" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101209 Fedora/3.1.7-0.35.b3pre.fc14 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: lojban@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] ckafi preti References: <201101070534.50987.phma@phma.optus.nu> In-Reply-To: X-Original-Sender: mark@kli.org X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: 96.56.207.26 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of mark@kli.org) smtp.mail=mark@kli.org Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed On 01/07/2011 10:52 AM, Luke Bergen wrote: > > I think you're forgeting, pierre, it's 7 hours now that you've been on > your feet. Do you really care at this point? > > I have been in diners where the question is something more like "cree > *slurred grunt* sug". When you're in a mental state such that you > don't even really care about getting your phonemes correct I have a > feeling that you /really/ don't care that it should probably be sumti > and not selbri that you're using > That's neither here nor there. If you're asking how it is to be done in Lojban, Pierre has answered. If people will not speak so clearly as to use it, that's an entirely different matter. Usage is not part of the grammar specification. ~mark -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en.