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Sun, 02 Jan 2011 08:41:00 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org designates 173.13.139.234 as permitted sender) client-ip=173.13.139.234; Received: from rlpowell by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1PZQzL-0006Az-UI for lojban@googlegroups.com; Sun, 02 Jan 2011 08:41:00 -0800 Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2011 08:40:59 -0800 From: Robin Lee Powell To: lojban@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] Merry Effing Christmas, Lojbanistan Message-ID: <20110102164059.GM17534@digitalkingdom.org> References: <20110101032935.GW22808@digitalkingdom.org> <20110102061506.GE17534@digitalkingdom.org> <20110102123354.GG17534@digitalkingdom.org> <20110102154022.GK17534@digitalkingdom.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-Original-Sender: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org designates 173.13.139.234 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Jan 02, 2011 at 11:35:54AM -0500, Michael Turniansky wrote: > On Sun, Jan 2, 2011 at 10:40 AM, Robin Lee Powell > wrote: > > On Sun, Jan 02, 2011 at 10:34:35AM -0500, Michael Turniansky wrote: > > > >> Well, obviously, to make a brash statement like that without > >> having actually SEEN the files involved is just blowing smoke. > >> But MUMPS' string handling capabilities are extremely powerful, > >> since they are its only data type. =A090 minutes was almost > >> certainly an exaggeration, but I wouldn't be surprised if it > >> took me significantly less time than it did you. > > > > String handling wasn't the issue at all; this was in Perl, for > > one thing, which is about as good at string handling as > > anything, I should think. > > > > The *VAST* majority of the time (> 90%) was spent making by-hand > > changes to the files so they could be matched up properly; the > > two documents had drifted greatly before I tried to transfer the > > index from one to the other. =A0The script itself only took me a > > couple of hours; it's only 300 lines. > > > > Feel free to come visit #lojban on IRC if you'd like to see the > > files. > > > > If there was a genuinely faster way to do this, I'd love to > > learn it. > > > > -Robin >=20 > ISTM that if you spent 18 hours making hand corrections to a > document in order to be able to index it, it would have taken you > less time than that to hand index it. =20 That was with only paying half attention, at best. Most of the people who have looked at the problem guess that it would take about a minute of concentrated attention per index entry. There are 5,000 of them. So, 80 hours minimum. You're *more* than welcome to do a by-hand review of the results, though, if you think you can do it much faster. :D -Robin --=20 http://singinst.org/ : Our last, best hope for a fantastic future. Lojban (http://www.lojban.org/): The language in which "this parrot is dead" is "ti poi spitaki cu morsi", but "this sentence is false" is "na nei". My personal page: http://www.digitalkingdom.org/rlp/ --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegrou= ps.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= ?hl=3Den.