From lojban+bncCJ2UzZHuDRDxsKjpBBoEgbjhgQ@googlegroups.com Sun Jan 09 12:20:16 2011 Received: from mail-wy0-f189.google.com ([74.125.82.189]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Pc1kK-00009S-Dn; Sun, 09 Jan 2011 12:20:16 -0800 Received: by wyb35 with SMTP id 35sf20986317wyb.16 for ; Sun, 09 Jan 2011 12:20:05 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:mime-version:received:received :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=qzcdUre32CZ94DenEMZ++STmauYTG4GH15FfeZDFdNE=; b=rzkXkYFQV/gc1MpPBPU+GD1tnZ1OjVPOJmnKC+jkF1OGNEiindQ0Moho0Kpmt2E0DT /iAsfB3/kqi0wMdZwqt7HyaEPBKDP+KcR6Nhqe6se94Eu2nkEdUEAW/tLOwzAuRimhuj w7Ig8AunlsqcD51tIa7Wx+ejk7p03RckdOTrs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=IaCq8SyIXTxxF13QCtHSfbwS0cS/aorNN8YiRWp7i+DTeCmctDdhANgTJ4+5e3cw/M 9GP+bAiGcrpCb21plFDCwOPt7XHdmQ5bj58Y+CqcNEBDlNEjW/nFvGn0KszWNufB8eWj ZcnKCTmRtWeD0e+ZLMGYTEZscfQ13QzK3z5No= Received: by 10.216.174.2 with SMTP id w2mr3848188wel.10.1294604401409; Sun, 09 Jan 2011 12:20:01 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.216.226.148 with SMTP id b20ls10450559weq.0.p; Sun, 09 Jan 2011 12:20:00 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.216.59.199 with SMTP id s49mr71086wec.12.1294604400369; Sun, 09 Jan 2011 12:20:00 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.216.59.199 with SMTP id s49mr71085wec.12.1294604400215; Sun, 09 Jan 2011 12:20:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-ww0-f53.google.com (mail-ww0-f53.google.com [74.125.82.53]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id t18si2311079wes.9.2011.01.09.12.19.59; Sun, 09 Jan 2011 12:19:59 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 74.125.82.53 as permitted sender) client-ip=74.125.82.53; Received: by wwi18 with SMTP id 18so18482569wwi.34 for ; Sun, 09 Jan 2011 12:19:59 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.227.144.7 with SMTP id x7mr1948493wbu.115.1294604350847; Sun, 09 Jan 2011 12:19:10 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.227.54.72 with HTTP; Sun, 9 Jan 2011 12:19:10 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <726794.97971.qm@web81306.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <9114501.161.1294150198377.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@yqhy19> <673286.9022.qm@web81303.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <294930.94884.qm@web81304.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <4D299D75.9090608@lojban.org> <4D29FF11.4080306@gmail.com> <4D2A0799.7000809@gmail.com> <726794.97971.qm@web81306.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2011 17:19:10 -0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: Cake, Pie or Ice Cream? From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?= To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: jjllambias@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 74.125.82.53 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=jjllambias@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Sun, Jan 9, 2011 at 5:04 PM, John E Clifford wrote: > Happily, if the sets are L-sets (just the things mentioned), then the issue of > how 'ce' groups is irrelevant, as it is clearly meant to be (I pass over teh > objection to talking about L-sets, since that is irrelevant, too). You seem to be saying that we never talk about sets in the language (only in the metalanguage). That's fine with me, we don't really need sets. But if so, is there any difference between "ko'a ce ko'e" and "ko'a jo'u ko'e"? mu'o mi'e xorxes -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en.