From lojban+bncCLr6ktCfBBCCpqrpBBoEdbsX5A@googlegroups.com Sun Jan 09 21:03:13 2011 Received: from mail-yw0-f61.google.com ([209.85.213.61]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Pc9uO-0004Mm-Qj; Sun, 09 Jan 2011 21:03:13 -0800 Received: by ywh1 with SMTP id 1sf18162489ywh.16 for ; Sun, 09 Jan 2011 21:03:02 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:received:received:date:from:to :subject:message-id:mail-followup-to:references:mime-version :in-reply-to:x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results :reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help :list-archive:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type :content-disposition:content-transfer-encoding; bh=NeEKENUqrSriDvq1LFcndqx5vNm4OhZWH42Bgh3zXEs=; b=1rihLzw2jkr+G89W491zzhwa/sXAPY1lRN5+HMHMOXkjDo7/73R8TLyzyaPhJDGKar ZJEC9PYxvf15btb8GESKNHK3lzusE3Nef9rapcVhdDxrtjS2iYAPIfE5escJO0tMyrKa 1m4DIi0L3UiX3ij425jv6kdqvg4+SLWQ4mU58= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:date:from:to:subject:message-id :mail-followup-to:references:mime-version:in-reply-to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type :content-disposition:content-transfer-encoding; b=6UPWH210WMLgBxQIdRMg4Adc95H4RLgXxWyS/fV+kIPrvcX2EHUx82+yU7nuTmqEOW S49bk/e/WylL7qjYeOGv6FkbDDOiZzgk+E31qU/e+uSosjBEpOlWe1zPAM+cQwHnzN0m /aGBcbNIqcHUI7FtBZdgkqf6xN7QQiB9kx7MQ= Received: by 10.151.3.2 with SMTP id f2mr2100573ybi.34.1294635778815; Sun, 09 Jan 2011 21:02:58 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.150.111.2 with SMTP id j2ls2790322ybc.0.p; Sun, 09 Jan 2011 21:02:57 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.147.136.19 with SMTP id o19mr5824670yan.1.1294635777200; Sun, 09 Jan 2011 21:02:57 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.147.136.19 with SMTP id o19mr5824669yan.1.1294635777130; Sun, 09 Jan 2011 21:02:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-yw0-f54.google.com (mail-yw0-f54.google.com [209.85.213.54]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id f5si12116391anh.2.2011.01.09.21.02.57 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sun, 09 Jan 2011 21:02:57 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 209.85.213.54 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of alanpost@sunflowerriver.org) client-ip=209.85.213.54; Received: by ywp6 with SMTP id 6so8952855ywp.41 for ; Sun, 09 Jan 2011 21:02:57 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.150.58.3 with SMTP id g3mr28671159yba.80.1294635776727; Sun, 09 Jan 2011 21:02:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from sunflowerriver.org (c-68-35-167-179.hsd1.nm.comcast.net [68.35.167.179]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id z23sm13167653yhc.24.2011.01.09.21.02.54 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sun, 09 Jan 2011 21:02:55 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2011 22:02:51 -0700 From: ".alyn.post." To: lojban@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] valsi nunkei Message-ID: <20110110050251.GA35416@alice.local> Mail-Followup-To: lojban@googlegroups.com References: <20110110035836.GA35245@alice.local> Mime-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: X-Original-Sender: alyn.post@lodockikumazvati.org X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: 209.85.213.54 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of alanpost@sunflowerriver.org) smtp.mail=alanpost@sunflowerriver.org Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable .ikogo'isai On Sun, Jan 09, 2011 at 11:35:17PM -0500, Luke Bergen wrote: > also sounds similar to la nikyge'u > ([1]http://www.lojban.org/tiki/tiki-index.php?no_bl=3Dy&page=3Dla+niky= ge'u). =EF=BF=BD > A game that I have not played in quite some time. =EF=BF=BD Maybe I'll= start it up > again on xedbig. >=20 > On Sun, Jan 9, 2011 at 10:58 PM, .alyn.post. > <[2]alyn.post@lodockikumazvati.org> wrote: >=20 > On .xedbig. I played a game of "lo lo jdaca'i ku mlatu ku mo" (The > Minister's Cat) which sounds similar to the game you describe: >=20 > [3]http://groups.google.com/group/xedbig/browse_frm/thread/eac23efdd= 4c630ed/d2ff05078d3ee4b9?#d2ff05078d3ee4b9 >=20 > On Sun, Jan 09, 2011 at 10:17:56PM -0500, Alex Rozenshteyn wrote: > > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD So in Russian, there's a game called "=EF=BF= =BD=EF=BF=BD=EF=BF=BD=EF=BF=BD=EF=BF=BD" (Words), in > which players > > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD take turns saying singular nouns in the nomina= tive case.=EF=BF=BD The > main > > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD restriction is that each noun must start with = the letter the last > noun > > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD ended with.=EF=BF=BD Has anyone done anything = similar for lojban?=EF=BF=BD The > concept > > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD doesn't translate too cleanly, as lojban gismu= start with > consonants and > > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD end with vowels. > > > > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD Would cmavo be valid words for the game?=EF=BF= =BD I'd say no. > > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD Would lujvo?=EF=BF=BD I'd say no, but less str= ongly than about cmavo. > > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD Would fu'ivla?=EF=BF=BD I'm not sure. > > > > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD This game might be a fun tool for building up = a vocabulary of > gismu, even > > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD though the definitions of the words aren't nee= ded in the game. > > > > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD -- > > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD=EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF= =BD =EF=BF=BDAlex R > > > > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD -- > > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD You received this message because you are subs= cribed to the Google > Groups > > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD "lojban" group. > > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD To post to this group, send email to [4]lojban= @googlegroups.com. > > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD [5]lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD For more options, visit this group at > > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD [6]http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=3D= en. >=20 > -- > .i ko djuno fi le do sevzi > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "lojban" group. > To post to this group, send email to [7]lojban@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [8]lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > [9]http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=3Den. >=20 > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Gro= ups > "lojban" group. > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=3Den. >=20 > References >=20 > Visible links > 1. http://www.lojban.org/tiki/tiki-index.php?no_bl=3Dy&page=3Dla+nikyg= e'u > 2. mailto:alyn.post@lodockikumazvati.org > 3. http://groups.google.com/group/xedbig/browse_frm/thread/eac23efdd4c= 630ed/d2ff05078d3ee4b9?#d2ff05078d3ee4b9 > 4. mailto:lojban@googlegroups.com > 5. mailto:lojban%2Bunsubscribe@googlegroups.com > 6. http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=3Den > 7. mailto:lojban@googlegroups.com > 8. mailto:lojban%2Bunsubscribe@googlegroups.com > 9. http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=3Den --=20 .i ko djuno fi le do sevzi --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. 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