From lojban+bncCOjSjrXVGBDHqqrpBBoEBafkXA@googlegroups.com Sun Jan 09 21:12:59 2011 Received: from mail-yx0-f189.google.com ([209.85.213.189]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1PcA3m-0004Zn-DT; Sun, 09 Jan 2011 21:12:59 -0800 Received: by yxn35 with SMTP id 35sf18170061yxn.16 for ; Sun, 09 Jan 2011 21:12:44 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:mime-version:received:received :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=3O5hS0IZ3q7zWFAVzhsVtGExO15c5GizXQo+smngDvE=; b=uHssXqP3FHEvcawI5U3g0NIZHjdMPw1nHyYJya46hbDUGnQr+iTcEePAJTN/1309JE wG8a0D2XTjKIb3AkosyQzJ2L3Az3QYIA6ATGBo+hkj4v2gOcxFx0qbi/se+ujYfZpFgu vzjyY79AKUlNdlvXdFLL0RyrN4ir8JHrnOwsw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=jOj1H5zJwi6WKueDvHohGNw4TVhIWBVSPz75bpjn6AQdAe+7KPi0Tq0vDxs0V6R8Lw PeXEXnuNpZvNNpLNLzElnAD4GZmhRboyduXwm7Nk0F9q9gYttUOW5qI3diqMTemdXCT1 tD7Ag1h0knAvkCEw0RveycejW7yTVsvuae3ss= Received: by 10.150.68.35 with SMTP id q35mr2093350yba.12.1294636359768; Sun, 09 Jan 2011 21:12:39 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.231.76.165 with SMTP id c37ls717634ibk.3.p; Sun, 09 Jan 2011 21:12:39 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.231.16.131 with SMTP id o3mr5035054iba.18.1294636358949; Sun, 09 Jan 2011 21:12:38 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.231.16.131 with SMTP id o3mr5035053iba.18.1294636358921; Sun, 09 Jan 2011 21:12:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-iy0-f174.google.com (mail-iy0-f174.google.com [209.85.210.174]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id j25si6534165ibb.0.2011.01.09.21.12.37; Sun, 09 Jan 2011 21:12:37 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of lukeabergen@gmail.com designates 209.85.210.174 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.210.174; Received: by mail-iy0-f174.google.com with SMTP id 18so557791iyj.19 for ; Sun, 09 Jan 2011 21:12:37 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.36.198 with SMTP id u6mr28623260ibd.100.1294636357759; Sun, 09 Jan 2011 21:12:37 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.231.200.148 with HTTP; Sun, 9 Jan 2011 21:12:37 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20110110050251.GA35416@alice.local> References: <20110110035836.GA35245@alice.local> <20110110050251.GA35416@alice.local> Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 00:12:37 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] valsi nunkei From: Luke Bergen To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: lukeabergen@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of lukeabergen@gmail.com designates 209.85.210.174 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=lukeabergen@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0021cc02238237b1d404997704a5 --0021cc02238237b1d404997704a5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable .oi mi go'i .iku'i mi samymri fi la'o .mri. xedbig@googlegroups.com .mri. .ijebo lo mi selmri cu na se viska .i mi rapli troci On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 12:02 AM, .alyn.post. < alyn.post@lodockikumazvati.org> wrote: > .ikogo'isai > > On Sun, Jan 09, 2011 at 11:35:17PM -0500, Luke Bergen wrote: > > also sounds similar to la nikyge'u > > ([1] > http://www.lojban.org/tiki/tiki-index.php?no_bl=3Dy&page=3Dla+nikyge'u). = =EF=BF=BD > > A game that I have not played in quite some time. =EF=BF=BD Maybe I'= ll start > it up > > again on xedbig. > > > > On Sun, Jan 9, 2011 at 10:58 PM, .alyn.post. > > <[2]alyn.post@lodockikumazvati.org> wrote: > > > > On .xedbig. I played a game of "lo lo jdaca'i ku mlatu ku mo" (The > > Minister's Cat) which sounds similar to the game you describe: > > > > [3] > http://groups.google.com/group/xedbig/browse_frm/thread/eac23efdd4c630ed/= d2ff05078d3ee4b9?#d2ff05078d3ee4b9 > > > > On Sun, Jan 09, 2011 at 10:17:56PM -0500, Alex Rozenshteyn wrote: > > > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD So in Russian, there's a game called "=EF=BF= =BD=EF=BF=BD=EF=BF=BD=EF=BF=BD=EF=BF=BD" (Words), in > > which players > > > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD take turns saying singular nouns in the nomi= native case.=EF=BF=BD The > > main > > > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD restriction is that each noun must start wit= h the letter the > last > > noun > > > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD ended with.=EF=BF=BD Has anyone done anythin= g similar for lojban?=EF=BF=BD The > > concept > > > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD doesn't translate too cleanly, as lojban gis= mu start with > > consonants and > > > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD end with vowels. > > > > > > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD Would cmavo be valid words for the game?=EF= =BF=BD I'd say no. > > > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD Would lujvo?=EF=BF=BD I'd say no, but less s= trongly than about cmavo. > > > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD Would fu'ivla?=EF=BF=BD I'm not sure. > > > > > > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD This game might be a fun tool for building u= p a vocabulary of > > gismu, even > > > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD though the definitions of the words aren't n= eeded in the game. > > > > > > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD -- > > > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD=EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF= =BF=BD =EF=BF=BDAlex R > > > > > > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD -- > > > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD You received this message because you are su= bscribed to the > Google > > Groups > > > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD "lojban" group. > > > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD To post to this group, send email to [4] > lojban@googlegroups.com. > > > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD To unsubscribe from this group, send email t= o > > > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD [5]lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com > . > > > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD For more options, visit this group at > > > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD [6]http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl= =3Den. > > > > -- > > .i ko djuno fi le do sevzi > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > > Groups "lojban" group. > > To post to this group, send email to [7]lojban@googlegroups.com. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > [8]lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com > . > > For more options, visit this group at > > [9]http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=3Den. > > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups > > "lojban" group. > > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com > . > > For more options, visit this group at > > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=3Den. > > > > References > > > > Visible links > > 1. http://www.lojban.org/tiki/tiki-index.php?no_bl=3Dy&page=3Dla+nik= yge'u > > 2. mailto:alyn.post@lodockikumazvati.org > > 3. > http://groups.google.com/group/xedbig/browse_frm/thread/eac23efdd4c630ed/= d2ff05078d3ee4b9?#d2ff05078d3ee4b9 > > 4. mailto:lojban@googlegroups.com > > 5. mailto:lojban%2Bunsubscribe@googlegroups.com > > 6. http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=3Den > > 7. mailto:lojban@googlegroups.com > > 8. mailto:lojban%2Bunsubscribe@googlegroups.com > > 9. http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=3Den > > -- > .i ko djuno fi le do sevzi > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "lojban" group. > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=3Den. > > --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegrou= ps.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= ?hl=3Den. --0021cc02238237b1d404997704a5 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable .oi mi go'i .iku'i mi samymri fi la'o .mri. xedbig@googlegroups.com .mri. .ijebo lo mi selm= ri cu na se viska .i mi rapli troci

On Mo= n, Jan 10, 2011 at 12:02 AM, .alyn.post. <alyn.post@lodockiku= mazvati.org> wrote:
.ikogo'isai

On Sun, Jan 09, 2011 at 11:35:17PM -0500, Luke Bergen wrote:
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0also sounds similar to la nikyge'u
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0([1]http://www.lo= jban.org/tiki/tiki-index.php?no_bl=3Dy&page=3Dla+nikyge'u). =EF= =BF=BD
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0A game that I have not played in quite some time. = =EF=BF=BD Maybe I'll start it up
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0again on xedbig.
>
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0On Sun, Jan 9, 2011 at 10:58 PM, .alyn.post.
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0<[2]alyn.post@lodockikumazvati.org> wrote:<= br> >
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0On .xedbig. I played a game of "lo lo jdaca&#= 39;i ku mlatu ku mo" (The
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Minister's Cat) which sounds similar to the ga= me you describe:
>
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0[3]http://groups.google.com/group/xedbig/browse_frm/thre= ad/eac23efdd4c630ed/d2ff05078d3ee4b9?#d2ff05078d3ee4b9
>
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0On Sun, Jan 09, 2011 at 10:17:56PM -0500, Alex Roz= enshteyn wrote:
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD So in Russian, there'= s a game called "=EF=BF=BD=EF=BF=BD=EF=BF=BD=EF=BF=BD=EF=BF=BD" (= Words), in
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0which players
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD take turns saying singula= r nouns in the nominative case.=EF=BF=BD The
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0main
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD restriction is that each = noun must start with the letter the last
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0noun
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD ended with.=EF=BF=BD Has = anyone done anything similar for lojban?=EF=BF=BD The
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0concept
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD doesn't translate too= cleanly, as lojban gismu start with
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0consonants and
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD end with vowels.
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0>
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD Would cmavo be valid word= s for the game?=EF=BF=BD I'd say no.
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD Would lujvo?=EF=BF=BD I&#= 39;d say no, but less strongly than about cmavo.
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD Would fu'ivla?=EF=BF= =BD I'm not sure.
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0>
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD This game might be a fun = tool for building up a vocabulary of
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0gismu, even
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD though the definitions of= the words aren't needed in the game.
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0>
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD --
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD=EF=BF=BD =EF=BF= =BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BDAlex R
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0>
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD --
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD You received this message= because you are subscribed to the Google
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> =C2=A0 =C2=A01. http://www.lojban.or= g/tiki/tiki-index.php?no_bl=3Dy&page=3Dla+nikyge'u
> =C2=A0 =C2=A02. mailto:alyn.post@lodockikumazvati.org
> =C2=A0 =C2=A03. http://groups.google.com/group/xedbig/browse_frm/thread/eac23efdd4= c630ed/d2ff05078d3ee4b9?#d2ff05078d3ee4b9
> =C2=A0 =C2=A04. mailto:lojban@googlegroups.com
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> =C2=A0 =C2=A08. mailto:lojban%2Bunsubscribe@googlegroups.com
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