From lojban+bncCOjSjrXVGBDCrqrpBBoEMidl1Q@googlegroups.com Sun Jan 09 21:21:22 2011 Received: from mail-yi0-f61.google.com ([209.85.218.61]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1PcABv-00051X-Sh; Sun, 09 Jan 2011 21:21:22 -0800 Received: by yia27 with SMTP id 27sf12889015yia.16 for ; Sun, 09 Jan 2011 21:21:10 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:mime-version:received:received :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=xJ02pc4fgAFZrqJHZKCOrVKONF5sUNCOAP32wh2sOV4=; b=n7nL9TEp7NKPNxfdAerIprRywKKlV16rWD+zrZw+VlM4ueSxnEfsSnfCq4HYVHTmuh gf2HUEzrLsGpsjTtOb+RWxUVeV6AHwrbQssDbW+VkFnKXaTOglkyKy/Nezse0gUxrFG3 TxRC86xpzNMBz/Q5eH0GfN0h2/pA6BH8J6cVg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=onmuQNksgXQp8C6LR9v+v4eGlsq5c+F1migFbdYF72SmsIvp51YM2gx3K3E9c8RWAs F+kNgB+hQZkXDjKnuifzQ5rbDA24zU8S0B4hl4ThGIMbEdeM8cMjL+KXDwG8phOm1BbD accSHs8dvHM/VlvKBTTSsWHLRjSWNFNrRlXWU= Received: by 10.147.170.4 with SMTP id x4mr1999532yao.8.1294636866339; Sun, 09 Jan 2011 21:21:06 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.231.76.165 with SMTP id c37ls721456ibk.3.p; Sun, 09 Jan 2011 21:21:05 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.231.33.74 with SMTP id g10mr5233941ibd.13.1294636865717; Sun, 09 Jan 2011 21:21:05 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.231.33.74 with SMTP id g10mr5233939ibd.13.1294636865680; Sun, 09 Jan 2011 21:21:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-iw0-f173.google.com (mail-iw0-f173.google.com [209.85.214.173]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id m30si6533209ibu.6.2011.01.09.21.21.04 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sun, 09 Jan 2011 21:21:04 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of lukeabergen@gmail.com designates 209.85.214.173 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.214.173; Received: by iwn40 with SMTP id 40so20460210iwn.4 for ; Sun, 09 Jan 2011 21:21:04 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.206.206 with SMTP id fv14mr11864640ibb.75.1294636864520; Sun, 09 Jan 2011 21:21:04 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.231.200.148 with HTTP; Sun, 9 Jan 2011 21:21:04 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <20110110035836.GA35245@alice.local> <20110110050251.GA35416@alice.local> Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 00:21:04 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] valsi nunkei From: Luke Bergen To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: lukeabergen@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of lukeabergen@gmail.com designates 209.85.214.173 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=lukeabergen@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=90e6ba4fc2326c40f704997722d5 --90e6ba4fc2326c40f704997722d5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable .uasai .i za'a va'o lo nu samymri fi la xedbig kei samymri fi je'u la xedbi= g zoi .gy moderators .gy .i ju'ocu'i mi na slabu lo du'u makau me zoi gy moderators gy .i ru'a la selkik me zoi .gy moderator .gy .i xu su'o do puzi jikca pe'a viska sy On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 12:12 AM, Luke Bergen wrote= : > .oi mi go'i .iku'i mi samymri fi la'o .mri. xedbig@googlegroups.com .mri. > .ijebo lo mi selmri cu na se viska .i mi rapli troci > > > On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 12:02 AM, .alyn.post. < > alyn.post@lodockikumazvati.org> wrote: > >> .ikogo'isai >> >> On Sun, Jan 09, 2011 at 11:35:17PM -0500, Luke Bergen wrote: >> > also sounds similar to la nikyge'u >> > ([1] >> http://www.lojban.org/tiki/tiki-index.php?no_bl=3Dy&page=3Dla+nikyge'u).= =EF=BF=BD >> > A game that I have not played in quite some time. =EF=BF=BD Maybe I= 'll start >> it up >> > again on xedbig. >> > >> > On Sun, Jan 9, 2011 at 10:58 PM, .alyn.post. >> > <[2]alyn.post@lodockikumazvati.org> wrote: >> > >> > On .xedbig. I played a game of "lo lo jdaca'i ku mlatu ku mo" (Th= e >> > Minister's Cat) which sounds similar to the game you describe: >> > >> > [3] >> http://groups.google.com/group/xedbig/browse_frm/thread/eac23efdd4c630ed= /d2ff05078d3ee4b9?#d2ff05078d3ee4b9 >> > >> > On Sun, Jan 09, 2011 at 10:17:56PM -0500, Alex Rozenshteyn wrote: >> > > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD So in Russian, there's a game called "=EF= =BF=BD=EF=BF=BD=EF=BF=BD=EF=BF=BD=EF=BF=BD" (Words), in >> > which players >> > > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD take turns saying singular nouns in the nom= inative case.=EF=BF=BD The >> > main >> > > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD restriction is that each noun must start wi= th the letter the >> last >> > noun >> > > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD ended with.=EF=BF=BD Has anyone done anythi= ng similar for lojban?=EF=BF=BD >> The >> > concept >> > > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD doesn't translate too cleanly, as lojban gi= smu start with >> > consonants and >> > > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD end with vowels. >> > > >> > > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD Would cmavo be valid words for the game?=EF= =BF=BD I'd say no. >> > > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD Would lujvo?=EF=BF=BD I'd say no, but less = strongly than about cmavo. >> > > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD Would fu'ivla?=EF=BF=BD I'm not sure. >> > > >> > > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD This game might be a fun tool for building = up a vocabulary of >> > gismu, even >> > > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD though the definitions of the words aren't = needed in the >> game. >> > > >> > > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD -- >> > > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD=EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF= =BF=BD =EF=BF=BDAlex R >> > > >> > > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD -- >> > > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD You received this message because you are s= ubscribed to the >> Google >> > Groups >> > > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD "lojban" group. >> > > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD To post to this group, send email to [4] >> lojban@googlegroups.com. >> > > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD To unsubscribe from this group, send email = to >> > > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD [5]lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com >> . >> > > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD For more options, visit this group at >> > > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD [6]http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl= =3Den. >> > >> > -- >> > .i ko djuno fi le do sevzi >> > -- >> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Googl= e >> > Groups "lojban" group. >> > To post to this group, send email to [7]lojban@googlegroups.com. >> > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> > [8]lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com >> . >> > For more options, visit this group at >> > [9]http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=3Den. >> > >> > -- >> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups >> > "lojban" group. >> > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. >> > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> > lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com >> . >> > For more options, visit this group at >> > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=3Den. >> > >> > References >> > >> > Visible links >> > 1. >> http://www.lojban.org/tiki/tiki-index.php?no_bl=3Dy&page=3Dla+nikyge'u >> > 2. mailto:alyn.post@lodockikumazvati.org >> > 3. >> http://groups.google.com/group/xedbig/browse_frm/thread/eac23efdd4c630ed= /d2ff05078d3ee4b9?#d2ff05078d3ee4b9 >> > 4. mailto:lojban@googlegroups.com >> > 5. mailto:lojban%2Bunsubscribe@googlegroups.com >> > 6. http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=3Den >> > 7. mailto:lojban@googlegroups.com >> > 8. mailto:lojban%2Bunsubscribe@googlegroups.com >> > 9. http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=3Den >> >> -- >> .i ko djuno fi le do sevzi >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Group= s >> "lojban" group. >> To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com >> . >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=3Den. >> >> > --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. 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On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 12:12 AM, Luke Berge= n <lukeaberge= n@gmail.com> wrote:
.oi mi go'i .iku'i mi samymri fi la'o .mri. xedbig@googlegroups.com .mri.= .ijebo lo mi selmri cu na se viska .i mi rapli troci


On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 12:02 AM, .alyn.= post. <alyn.post@lodockikumazvati.org> wrote:
.ikogo'isai

On Sun, Jan 09, 2011 at 11:35:17PM -0500, Luke Bergen wrote:
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0also sounds similar to la nikyge'u
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0([1]http://www.lo= jban.org/tiki/tiki-index.php?no_bl=3Dy&page=3Dla+nikyge'u). =EF= =BF=BD
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0A game that I have not played in quite some time. = =EF=BF=BD Maybe I'll start it up
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0again on xedbig.
>
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0On Sun, Jan 9, 2011 at 10:58 PM, .alyn.post.
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0<[2]alyn.post@lodockikumazvati.org> wrote:<= br> >
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0On .xedbig. I played a game of "lo lo jdaca&#= 39;i ku mlatu ku mo" (The
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Minister's Cat) which sounds similar to the ga= me you describe:
>
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0[3]http://groups.google.com/group/xedbig/browse_frm/thre= ad/eac23efdd4c630ed/d2ff05078d3ee4b9?#d2ff05078d3ee4b9
>
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0On Sun, Jan 09, 2011 at 10:17:56PM -0500, Alex Roz= enshteyn wrote:
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD So in Russian, there'= s a game called "=EF=BF=BD=EF=BF=BD=EF=BF=BD=EF=BF=BD=EF=BF=BD" (= Words), in
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0which players
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD take turns saying singula= r nouns in the nominative case.=EF=BF=BD The
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0main
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD restriction is that each = noun must start with the letter the last
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0noun
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD ended with.=EF=BF=BD Has = anyone done anything similar for lojban?=EF=BF=BD The
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0concept
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD doesn't translate too= cleanly, as lojban gismu start with
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0consonants and
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD end with vowels.
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0>
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD Would cmavo be valid word= s for the game?=EF=BF=BD I'd say no.
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD Would lujvo?=EF=BF=BD I&#= 39;d say no, but less strongly than about cmavo.
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD Would fu'ivla?=EF=BF= =BD I'm not sure.
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0>
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD This game might be a fun = tool for building up a vocabulary of
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0gismu, even
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD though the definitions of= the words aren't needed in the game.
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0>
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD --
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD=EF=BF=BD =EF=BF= =BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BDAlex R
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0>
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD --
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD You received this message= because you are subscribed to the Google
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Groups
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD "lojban" group.=
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD To post to this gro= up, send email to [4]lojban@googlegroups.com.
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> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD [6]http://groups.g= oogle.com/group/lojban?hl=3Den.
>
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0--
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0.i ko djuno fi le do sevzi
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> =C2=A0 =C2=A0Visible links
> =C2=A0 =C2=A01. http://www.lojban.or= g/tiki/tiki-index.php?no_bl=3Dy&page=3Dla+nikyge'u
> =C2=A0 =C2=A02. mailto:alyn.post@lodockikumazvati.org
> =C2=A0 =C2=A03. http://groups.google.com/group/xedbig/browse_frm/thread/eac23efdd4= c630ed/d2ff05078d3ee4b9?#d2ff05078d3ee4b9
> =C2=A0 =C2=A04. mailto:lojban@googlegroups.com
> =C2=A0 =C2=A05. mailto:lojban%2Bunsubscribe@googlegroups.com
> =C2=A0 =C2=A06. http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=3Den
> =C2=A0 =C2=A07. mailto:lojban@googlegroups.com
> =C2=A0 =C2=A08. mailto:lojban%2Bunsubscribe@googlegroups.com
> =C2=A0 =C2=A09. http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=3Den

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