From lojban+bncCLr6ktCfBBDHs6rpBBoEZkxhsQ@googlegroups.com Sun Jan 09 21:32:06 2011 Received: from mail-yx0-f189.google.com ([209.85.213.189]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1PcAML-0004BX-PT; Sun, 09 Jan 2011 21:32:06 -0800 Received: by yxn35 with SMTP id 35sf18177357yxn.16 for ; Sun, 09 Jan 2011 21:31:56 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:received:received:date:from:to :subject:message-id:mail-followup-to:references:mime-version :in-reply-to:x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results :reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help :list-archive:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type :content-disposition:content-transfer-encoding; bh=xup5jv+DWrtEw5lrttq1SypPP53tKo3U2dNfeoGLOUs=; b=AozIGqocJ7KuXUbL7sI+YMfx+YW9x5vtHzFO9U+CoAiEWoXOVrSr0ZUNJdKBZTH+72 9DhL5SGDQtzzm8moqBWkYH5w3AZyiSIM8mfHBott70HsAg2gArUFjT5b9fPrDLgJwdBj 3ROMEDgEP2AUq8aHQ7tWIpynK/TjBDDk1qPoM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:date:from:to:subject:message-id :mail-followup-to:references:mime-version:in-reply-to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type :content-disposition:content-transfer-encoding; b=Xa53LJ/kCNt7S3eR25ppE3v5hS8CM6FMtYx1hxE/p5qZqh4Ij2nN2VARRhdj5VVfji mhaDgwL3g6e45YegC1mCnMb8YbdOZHOBTYhbx875kXEPcdZSpkSgrYLKByWQNqZrcXWE qyB1egJobXhCQBfrkLAQJoQ7JMRT1eEN1CXMI= Received: by 10.151.116.20 with SMTP id t20mr822982ybm.11.1294637511527; Sun, 09 Jan 2011 21:31:51 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.100.4.7 with SMTP id 7ls938068and.7.p; Sun, 09 Jan 2011 21:31:50 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.100.253.8 with SMTP id a8mr677568ani.0.1294637510823; Sun, 09 Jan 2011 21:31:50 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.100.253.8 with SMTP id a8mr677567ani.0.1294637510803; Sun, 09 Jan 2011 21:31:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-yx0-f180.google.com (mail-yx0-f180.google.com [209.85.213.180]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id 28si12127979anv.0.2011.01.09.21.31.50; Sun, 09 Jan 2011 21:31:50 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 209.85.213.180 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of alanpost@sunflowerriver.org) client-ip=209.85.213.180; Received: by yxm34 with SMTP id 34so8215788yxm.11 for ; Sun, 09 Jan 2011 21:31:50 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.100.201.15 with SMTP id y15mr16442575anf.259.1294637510534; Sun, 09 Jan 2011 21:31:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from sunflowerriver.org (c-68-35-167-179.hsd1.nm.comcast.net [68.35.167.179]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id d15sm37136280ana.15.2011.01.09.21.31.48 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sun, 09 Jan 2011 21:31:49 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2011 22:31:45 -0700 From: ".alyn.post." To: lojban@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] valsi nunkei Message-ID: <20110110053145.GB35416@alice.local> Mail-Followup-To: lojban@googlegroups.com References: <20110110035836.GA35245@alice.local> <20110110050251.GA35416@alice.local> Mime-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: X-Original-Sender: alyn.post@lodockikumazvati.org X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: 209.85.213.180 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of alanpost@sunflowerriver.org) smtp.mail=alanpost@sunflowerriver.org Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable .i la .selkik. ja'a selte'i zoi .gy. moderator. .gy. .i .uinai mi na pe'a viska sy pe do On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 12:21:04AM -0500, Luke Bergen wrote: > .uasai .i za'a va'o lo nu samymri fi la xedbig kei samymri fi je'u la > xedbig zoi .gy moderators .gy .i ju'ocu'i mi na slabu lo du'u makau me= zoi > gy moderators gy .i ru'a la selkik me zoi .gy moderator .gy .i xu su'o= do > puzi jikca pe'a viska sy >=20 > On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 12:12 AM, Luke Bergen <[1]lukeabergen@gmail.co= m> > wrote: >=20 > .oi mi go'i .iku'i mi samymri fi la'o .mri. [2]xedbig@googlegroups.c= om > .mri. .ijebo lo mi selmri cu na se viska .i mi rapli troci >=20 > On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 12:02 AM, .alyn.post. > <[3]alyn.post@lodockikumazvati.org> wrote: >=20 > .ikogo'isai > On Sun, Jan 09, 2011 at 11:35:17PM -0500, Luke Bergen wrote: > > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD also sounds similar to la nikyge'u > > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD > ([1][4]http://www.lojban.org/tiki/tiki-index.php?no_bl=3Dy&page=3D= la+nikyge'u). > =EF=BF=BD > > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD A game that I have not played in quite some = time. =EF=BF=BD Maybe I'll > start it up > > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD again on xedbig. > > > > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD On Sun, Jan 9, 2011 at 10:58 PM, .alyn.post. > > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD <[2][5]alyn.post@lodockikumazvati.org> wrote= : > > > > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD On .xedbig. I played a game of "lo= lo jdaca'i ku mlatu ku mo" > (The > > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD Minister's Cat) which sounds simil= ar to the game you describe: > > > > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD > [3][6]http://groups.google.com/group/xedbig/browse_frm/thread/eac2= 3efdd4c630ed/d2ff05078d3ee4b9?#d2ff05078d3ee4b9 > > > > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD On Sun, Jan 09, 2011 at 10:17:56PM= -0500, Alex Rozenshteyn > wrote: > > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD So in Russia= n, there's a game called > "=EF=BF=BD=EF=BF=BD=EF=BF=BD=EF=BF=BD=EF=BF=BD" (Words), in > > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD which players > > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD take turns s= aying singular nouns in the nominative > case.=EF=BF=BD The > > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD main > > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD restriction = is that each noun must start with the > letter the last > > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD noun > > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD ended with.= =EF=BF=BD Has anyone done anything similar for > lojban?=EF=BF=BD The > > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD concept > > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD doesn't tran= slate too cleanly, as lojban gismu start > with > > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD consonants and > > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD end with vow= els. > > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD > > > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD Would cmavo = be valid words for the game?=EF=BF=BD I'd say > no. > > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD Would lujvo?= =EF=BF=BD I'd say no, but less strongly than > about cmavo. > > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD Would fu'ivl= a?=EF=BF=BD I'm not sure. > > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD > > > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD This game mi= ght be a fun tool for building up a > vocabulary of > > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD gismu, even > > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD though the d= efinitions of the words aren't needed in > the game. > > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD > > > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD -- > > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD=EF= =BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BDAlex R > > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD > > > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD -- > > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD You received= this message because you are subscribed > to the Google > > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD Groups > > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD "lojban" gro= up. > > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD To post to t= his group, send email to > [4][7]lojban@googlegroups.com. > > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD To unsubscri= be from this group, send email to > > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD [5][8]lojban= +unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > > =EF=BF=BD 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