From lojban+bncCLr6ktCfBBDSt6rpBBoETv2LFQ@googlegroups.com Sun Jan 09 21:40:51 2011 Received: from mail-yi0-f61.google.com ([209.85.218.61]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1PcAUm-0004TU-52; Sun, 09 Jan 2011 21:40:51 -0800 Received: by yia27 with SMTP id 27sf12895472yia.16 for ; Sun, 09 Jan 2011 21:40:38 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:received:received:date:from:to:cc :subject:message-id:mail-followup-to:references:mime-version :in-reply-to:x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results :reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help :list-archive:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type :content-disposition:content-transfer-encoding; bh=t6PHyec8jbcIoXhS/+4z7skJ6kbHwDsL642pA3FeyGY=; b=rVpIqLexet0VX0hXgGFBtQh7B03fwA/3UcItJv3tmwSXSN0UhcSLeeMRisdNPM5rhs mOeHGBbZnJEO+KxC6ZD8LjOJBmsDQs7WkbTejsyMtvQWMxlSPnTJFT0lylWtwX/Lml/1 RdaR3ErEBMmo8fh0b4Ux6D0Q0EWJa2CM2ww4w= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id :mail-followup-to:references:mime-version:in-reply-to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type :content-disposition:content-transfer-encoding; b=OmGhFhdO9Tp9a7rJwaA820iaB/PDtAboAwp2645zzMvjRUBFIqxzrU4OtZvXWl1aTW rckYJ9gS3V8qLJHe/vC+mTcKd8RYCxx9jbiEzMMCQJXGneRVX+roAGdECtFpoSVGDaie +ZLGWTxrPViGkXwkm/3WyhzqddD66vf8o6W4E= Received: by 10.236.108.179 with SMTP id q39mr1135699yhg.3.1294638034266; Sun, 09 Jan 2011 21:40:34 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.100.156.5 with SMTP id d5ls3790861ane.1.p; Sun, 09 Jan 2011 21:40:33 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.100.251.9 with SMTP id y9mr4894501anh.47.1294638033694; Sun, 09 Jan 2011 21:40:33 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.100.251.9 with SMTP id y9mr4894500anh.47.1294638033677; Sun, 09 Jan 2011 21:40:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-yi0-f52.google.com (mail-yi0-f52.google.com [209.85.218.52]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id 28si12131427anv.0.2011.01.09.21.40.33; Sun, 09 Jan 2011 21:40:33 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 209.85.218.52 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of alanpost@sunflowerriver.org) client-ip=209.85.218.52; Received: by mail-yi0-f52.google.com with SMTP id 24so7249259yic.25 for ; Sun, 09 Jan 2011 21:40:33 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.147.137.15 with SMTP id p15mr39419530yan.26.1294638033281; Sun, 09 Jan 2011 21:40:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from sunflowerriver.org (c-68-35-167-179.hsd1.nm.comcast.net [68.35.167.179]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id i10sm37153952anh.32.2011.01.09.21.40.30 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sun, 09 Jan 2011 21:40:32 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2011 22:40:28 -0700 From: ".alyn.post." To: Stela Selckiku Cc: lojban@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] valsi nunkei Message-ID: <20110110054028.GD35416@alice.local> Mail-Followup-To: Stela Selckiku , lojban@googlegroups.com References: <20110110035836.GA35245@alice.local> <20110110050251.GA35416@alice.local> Mime-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: X-Original-Sender: alyn.post@lodockikumazvati.org X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: 209.85.218.52 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of alanpost@sunflowerriver.org) smtp.mail=alanpost@sunflowerriver.org Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable .i mi'o ba curmi lo la .selkik. nu cikna .i doi la .selkik. ko cikna .i mi'a djica lo do nu cidju .i mu'o mi'e .alyn. On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 12:21:04AM -0500, Luke Bergen wrote: > .uasai .i za'a va'o lo nu samymri fi la xedbig kei samymri fi je'u la > xedbig zoi .gy moderators .gy .i ju'ocu'i mi na slabu lo du'u makau me= zoi > gy moderators gy .i ru'a la selkik me zoi .gy moderator .gy .i xu su'o= do > puzi jikca pe'a viska sy >=20 > On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 12:12 AM, Luke Bergen <[1]lukeabergen@gmail.co= m> > wrote: >=20 > .oi mi go'i .iku'i mi samymri fi la'o .mri. [2]xedbig@googlegroups.c= om > .mri. .ijebo lo mi selmri cu na se viska .i mi rapli troci >=20 > On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 12:02 AM, .alyn.post. > <[3]alyn.post@lodockikumazvati.org> wrote: >=20 > .ikogo'isai > On Sun, Jan 09, 2011 at 11:35:17PM -0500, Luke Bergen wrote: > > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD also sounds similar to la nikyge'u > > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD > ([1][4]http://www.lojban.org/tiki/tiki-index.php?no_bl=3Dy&page=3D= la+nikyge'u). > =EF=BF=BD > > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD A game that I have not played in quite some = time. =EF=BF=BD Maybe I'll > start it up > > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD again on xedbig. > > > > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD On Sun, Jan 9, 2011 at 10:58 PM, .alyn.post. > > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD <[2][5]alyn.post@lodockikumazvati.org> wrote= : > > > > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD On .xedbig. I played a game of "lo= lo jdaca'i ku mlatu ku mo" > (The > > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD Minister's Cat) which sounds simil= ar to the game you describe: > > > > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD > [3][6]http://groups.google.com/group/xedbig/browse_frm/thread/eac2= 3efdd4c630ed/d2ff05078d3ee4b9?#d2ff05078d3ee4b9 > > > > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD On Sun, Jan 09, 2011 at 10:17:56PM= -0500, Alex Rozenshteyn > wrote: > > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD So in Russia= n, there's a game called > "=EF=BF=BD=EF=BF=BD=EF=BF=BD=EF=BF=BD=EF=BF=BD" (Words), in > > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD which players > > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD take turns s= aying singular nouns in the nominative > case.=EF=BF=BD The > > =EF=BF=BD ? =EF=BF=BD main > > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD restriction = is that each noun must start with the > letter the last > > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD noun > > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD ended with.= =EF=BF=BD Has anyone done anything similar for > lojban?=EF=BF=BD The > > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD concept > > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD doesn't tran= slate too cleanly, as lojban gismu start > with > > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD consonants and > > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD end with vow= els. > > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD > > > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD Would cmavo = be valid words for the game?=EF=BF=BD I'd say > no. > > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD Would lujvo?= =EF=BF=BD I'd say no, but less strongly than > about cmavo. > > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD Would fu'ivl= a?=EF=BF=BD I'm not sure. > > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD > > > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD This game mi= ght be a fun tool for building up a > vocabulary of > > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD gismu, even > > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD though the d= efinitions of the words aren't needed in > the game. > > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD > > > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD -- > > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD=EF= =BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BDAlex R > > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD > > > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD -- > > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD You received= this message because you are subscribed > to the Google > > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD Groups > > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD "lojban" gro= up. > > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD To post to t= his group, send email to > [4][7]lojban@googlegroups.com. > > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD To unsubscri= be from this group, send email to > > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD [5][8]lojban= +unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD For more opt= ions, visit this group at > > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD [6][9]http:/= /groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=3Den. > > > > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD -- > > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD .i ko djuno fi le do sevzi > > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD -- > > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD You received this message because = you are subscribed to the > Google > > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD Groups "lojban" group. > > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD To post to this group, send email = to > [7][10]lojban@googlegroups.com. > > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD To unsubscribe from this group, se= nd email to > > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD [8][11]lojban+unsubscribe@googlegr= oups.com. > > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD For more options, visit this group= at > > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD [9][12]http://groups.google.com/gr= oup/lojban?hl=3Den. > > > > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD -- > > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD You received this message because you are su= bscribed to the > Google Groups > > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD "lojban" group. > > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD To post to this group, send email to > [13]lojban@googlegroups.com. > > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD To unsubscribe from this group, send email t= o > > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD [14]lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD For more options, visit this group at > > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD [15]http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl= =3Den. > > > > References > > > > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD Visible links > > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD 1. > [16]http://www.lojban.org/tiki/tiki-index.php?no_bl=3Dy&page=3Dla+= nikyge'u > > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD 2. mailto:[17]alyn.post@lodockikumazvati.org > > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD 3. > [18]http://groups.google.com/group/xedbig/browse_frm/thread/eac23e= fdd4c630ed/d2ff05078d3ee4b9?#d2ff05078d3ee4b9 > > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD 4. mailto:[19]lojban@googlegroups.com > > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD 5. mailto:[20]lojban%2Bunsubscribe@googlegro= ups.com > > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD 6. 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