From lojban+bncCK30vq5WELq6rOkEGgTZ5xTG@googlegroups.com Mon Jan 10 06:52:57 2011 Received: from mail-pz0-f61.google.com ([209.85.210.61]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1PcJ76-00056i-0A; Mon, 10 Jan 2011 06:52:57 -0800 Received: by pzk9 with SMTP id 9sf5632708pzk.16 for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2011 06:52:46 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:date:from:to:subject:message-id :references:mime-version:in-reply-to:user-agent:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type:content-disposition; bh=Sabd5maiQTZjkgSrIdaNPHhKn3ZQByAjmjv8YMqYW0M=; b=1/blXg1aqgf1bFwPj+3caBwgS0ktJkGILgUl31vMr2m175zuDQrY9HjDs/nEoHVrEj pMf3XO5kQpMj2OGh2VPkqr4WzSHaOwfRsZYszTlMW/kBJ+e/+gbncc3sAxKYYVw6YNBf omIXjjBqD3StJQXD8EgEed/OoNvKR1s1lUkRU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:date:from:to:subject:message-id:references :mime-version:in-reply-to:user-agent:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type:content-disposition; b=Q8oLfmVi0JghEksogyWnyvHgdgOpKtrRKem94XnLfzLI4gKf9HR8m13wgls+98WmxF IIZWDh5CKMQBVRdX18wvqskkdUZS+wqD1CWElnxDJ0aiYYprjsHwLbv7OFLrL0tQIGuZ 8lnIv3K+J7/Bo6vv2IQnYsww0Xjm0Ci8f99YQ= Received: by 10.142.56.11 with SMTP id e11mr280980wfa.23.1294671162754; Mon, 10 Jan 2011 06:52:42 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.142.2.41 with SMTP id 41ls30559968wfb.0.p; Mon, 10 Jan 2011 06:52:41 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.142.241.16 with SMTP id o16mr4416037wfh.29.1294671161250; Mon, 10 Jan 2011 06:52:41 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.142.241.16 with SMTP id o16mr4416035wfh.29.1294671161223; Mon, 10 Jan 2011 06:52:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org (digitalkingdom.org [173.13.139.234]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id w13si6024037wfh.7.2011.01.10.06.52.40 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Mon, 10 Jan 2011 06:52:41 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org designates 173.13.139.234 as permitted sender) client-ip=173.13.139.234; Received: from rlpowell by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1PcJ6u-00056V-5t for lojban@googlegroups.com; Mon, 10 Jan 2011 06:52:40 -0800 Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 06:52:40 -0800 From: Robin Lee Powell To: lojban@googlegroups.com Subject: Out of the mouths of babes (was Re: Lojban is *NOT* broken! Stop saying that! (was Re: [lojban] Re: Vote for the Future Global Language)) Message-ID: <20110110145240.GK6914@digitalkingdom.org> References: <4D25CFD8.6010408@lojban.org> <63371.11455.qm@web81306.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <20963.85801.qm@web81304.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <913593.57689.qm@web81301.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <4D299F91.2020308@lojban.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4D299F91.2020308@lojban.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-Original-Sender: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org designates 173.13.139.234 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline On Sun, Jan 09, 2011 at 06:44:17AM -0500, Bob LeChevalier, President and Founder - LLG wrote: > John E Clifford wrote: > >Portable recorder (a pen size say) and transcription at the end > >of each day. Textbooks cover very little of a typical > >10-year-old's life, nor would adding in books, tv and games cover > >the whole very well. > > I believe that there already exist such corpora; I had access to > one several years ago, called CHILDES. I don't remember the age > range. > > http://childes.psy.cmu.edu/ seems to be the current site, and it > looks like they've accomplished a lot since I last looked. That looks really complicated. If there's a way to extract "here's a list of words/concepts that any language should/must be able to easily express", I don't see how to do it. If you could explore the site to find that, it would be really helpful. -Robin -- http://singinst.org/ : Our last, best hope for a fantastic future. Lojban (http://www.lojban.org/): The language in which "this parrot is dead" is "ti poi spitaki cu morsi", but "this sentence is false" is "na nei". 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