From lojban+bncCK30vq5WEOGLuekEGgRrOy6P@googlegroups.com Wed Jan 12 16:23:14 2011 Received: from mail-px0-f189.google.com ([209.85.212.189]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1PdAy5-00063S-8I; Wed, 12 Jan 2011 16:23:13 -0800 Received: by pxi19 with SMTP id 19sf112725pxi.16 for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2011 16:23:03 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:x-beenthere:received-spf:date:from:to:subject :message-id:references:mime-version:in-reply-to:user-agent :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type :content-disposition; bh=SexZQbAx2aFujBZMyQYoSH92GilwvpG/kVSLeO5drZ4=; b=gDIolETtoQkZmuJ1O5v4lx3MvFnKKqcWqVRN8yqiPwlVdf370nX2f6jFx7UggHaez2 fFELPVZfZkjodfaLT4Z4VERRg8PPCCzJsLiV/n7scgGfRyuMGWxm84eaBEHEynqI/r3V I4DSUXhvdhrGmAcpMsr2W7n5sh5LApXFhu1VI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:date:from:to:subject:message-id:references :mime-version:in-reply-to:user-agent:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type:content-disposition; b=1tdTxDp7hBEwrx/Ov44ZWlUoXvHpTRtZBk+v/SgXUwGo3cAwv6zfGXnVgFNf/uxrHX gDB9TWEIi2p/lMzHsG+W80+uHDxuXJt5juVoHT9sgfq6vkbNvPFyBBmKmcnpcSZj0L5c 6KYiQlxVXqpz+hj833cjf/V6FRIHFRwy+ejro= Received: by 10.142.163.11 with SMTP id l11mr35474wfe.23.1294878177742; Wed, 12 Jan 2011 16:22:57 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.142.97.18 with SMTP id u18ls1387196wfb.2.p; Wed, 12 Jan 2011 16:22:56 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.142.155.9 with SMTP id c9mr316861wfe.4.1294878176683; Wed, 12 Jan 2011 16:22:56 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.142.155.9 with SMTP id c9mr316860wfe.4.1294878176664; Wed, 12 Jan 2011 16:22:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org (digitalkingdom.org [173.13.139.234]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id w13si1345419wfh.3.2011.01.12.16.22.56 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 12 Jan 2011 16:22:56 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org designates 173.13.139.234 as permitted sender) client-ip=173.13.139.234; Received: from rlpowell by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1PdAxr-00062n-0i for lojban@googlegroups.com; Wed, 12 Jan 2011 16:22:55 -0800 Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2011 16:22:55 -0800 From: Robin Lee Powell To: lojban@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] any-word-SA-handling clarification Message-ID: <20110113002254.GU2132@digitalkingdom.org> References: <20110112141124.GA866@alice.local> <20110112184918.GP2132@digitalkingdom.org> <20110112234509.GB1262@alice.local> <20110113000444.GS2132@digitalkingdom.org> <20110113001636.GT2132@digitalkingdom.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-Original-Sender: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org designates 173.13.139.234 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline I hadn't thought of that particular definition. It's definitely a thought. We gotta do *something* with it, though, it's ridiculous. -Robin On Wed, Jan 12, 2011 at 07:20:02PM -0500, Luke Bergen wrote: > so, being the benevolent dictator for life of the bpfk that you > are, can you just define it that way? From what I'm hearing, it > sounds like it doesn't have a very firm definition as it is now. > > On Wed, Jan 12, 2011 at 7:16 PM, Robin Lee Powell < > rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org> wrote: > > > On Wed, Jan 12, 2011 at 07:14:01PM -0500, Luke Bergen wrote: > > > With all this talk of {sa}, what about {ra}? It seems like it > > > would have a similar set of issues. > > > > No, not at all. With {sa} you have to be able to emit arbitrary > > bullshit and at the end it's still grammatical. At the *parser* > > level. {ra} issues are purely semantic; how to parse it is not in > > question. > > > > > ta'onai when I see {sa} I usually assume something like "cut all > > > the words back to the last {.i}". Is coding something like that > > > in PEG possible? > > > > Trivial. That would be a *fantastic* version of {sa} from a parsing > > perspective. Sooooo much better than the current version. > > > > -Robin > > > > -- > > http://singinst.org/ : Our last, best hope for a fantastic future. > > Lojban (http://www.lojban.org/): The language in which "this parrot > > is dead" is "ti poi spitaki cu morsi", but "this sentence is false" > > is "na nei". My personal page: http://www.digitalkingdom.org/rlp/ > > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "lojban" group. > > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com > > . > > For more options, visit this group at > > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. > > > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. > -- http://singinst.org/ : Our last, best hope for a fantastic future. Lojban (http://www.lojban.org/): The language in which "this parrot is dead" is "ti poi spitaki cu morsi", but "this sentence is false" is "na nei". 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