From lojban+bncCIywt_XDCRCK4LnpBBoEXIMPMg@googlegroups.com Wed Jan 12 19:23:08 2011 Received: from mail-gy0-f189.google.com ([209.85.160.189]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1PdDmA-0008GO-6G; Wed, 12 Jan 2011 19:23:08 -0800 Received: by gyb11 with SMTP id 11sf877058gyb.16 for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2011 19:22:56 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:x-beenthere:received-spf:message-id:x-ymail-osg :x-mailer:references:date:from:subject:to:in-reply-to:mime-version :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=WgqUQ+XIUiv9XOShESw6+ndwIoJeECQdxiN+HtbrZ18=; b=MbKA0fpAmE91f4KDQ9ykS3hxG9aN+DlNF5Oh2Ydy7XMknX5NlggBQFsEfemj9N7vMK J65FRkzjFmP84/pj4jiqM29Cl/H9kzoI9qBtPCVEkHB6DbNVU8UAtCN7jRFuz1MPL0o2 Pm3j9ZbTP2UUOuhsjilQ7iTf6RzB3pDgoBemQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:message-id:x-ymail-osg:x-mailer:references :date:from:subject:to:in-reply-to:mime-version:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=XKcTB/gSsOk6+nf0uvS28T/b+jIQbWvUSeFUP2N1UdobThFmWczRIIiWTopMOYDZG2 mg3G1tJRzF3URLEmBNHQEAA7srMhF/5u41GPVyRa3g9NpkeLQcVBWBnTw3dthZ4zSed/ XlEbC10we4+aS1Q1QZ3VlVH2q7ThxqT1rt588= Received: by 10.147.82.10 with SMTP id j10mr160666yal.20.1294888970792; Wed, 12 Jan 2011 19:22:50 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.100.55.28 with SMTP id d28ls228144ana.6.p; Wed, 12 Jan 2011 19:22:49 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.100.131.19 with SMTP id e19mr330463and.9.1294888969330; Wed, 12 Jan 2011 19:22:49 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.100.131.19 with SMTP id e19mr330462and.9.1294888969308; Wed, 12 Jan 2011 19:22:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from web81306.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web81306.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.199.122]) by gmr-mx.google.com with SMTP id w40si454821ana.3.2011.01.12.19.22.48; Wed, 12 Jan 2011 19:22:48 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of kali9putra@yahoo.com designates 68.142.199.122 as permitted sender) client-ip=68.142.199.122; Received: (qmail 44351 invoked by uid 60001); 13 Jan 2011 03:22:48 -0000 Message-ID: <865102.85968.qm@web81306.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: GOaN6zAVM1n9rd53lYvaBTYNnOx45FJqZEN4GQaLdG1w9k4 7T_Ua8NVQiKGPRO3OaK1KGB.8aDEcA6gPaaOB0xZgsLm6wNFvpiDmHzimlnc 2MyjDm8XBEINNgei262ZZY4MpzilDJLZ8bJnJBqiwzjel03e4tT5KsuVZkRh TimSnS_IUQv7_pS_B8fDAsxEtHjwjgRLhnh230OrplXppiiJGywY3eUsJfKO lh1QrQDYjWkyovBGfbDIIqiWkBuujZP5McSXMJvF9KN.xEzBA.X7zt3eBbf4 x3KzR9KpRKav3TJDV6CPFV0BqQEsfoZRiTU9tSfpkqmZLWVPteWKi6B4gDGD f Received: from [99.92.110.13] by web81306.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 12 Jan 2011 19:22:47 PST X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/553 YahooMailWebService/0.8.107.285259 References: <20110112141124.GA866@alice.local> <20110112184918.GP2132@digitalkingdom.org> <20110112234509.GB1262@alice.local> <20110113000444.GS2132@digitalkingdom.org> <20110113001636.GT2132@digitalkingdom.org> <20110113002254.GU2132@digitalkingdom.org> Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2011 19:22:47 -0800 (PST) From: John E Clifford Subject: Re: [lojban] any-word-SA-handling clarification To: lojban@googlegroups.com In-Reply-To: <20110113002254.GU2132@digitalkingdom.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Original-Sender: kali9putra@yahoo.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of kali9putra@yahoo.com designates 68.142.199.122 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=kali9putra@yahoo.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@yahoo.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Is it way too late to just say"Oops!"and start all over again without a grammatical way to erase the mistake? ----- Original Message ---- From: Robin Lee Powell To: lojban@googlegroups.com Sent: Wed, January 12, 2011 6:22:55 PM Subject: Re: [lojban] any-word-SA-handling clarification I hadn't thought of that particular definition. It's definitely a thought. We gotta do *something* with it, though, it's ridiculous. -Robin On Wed, Jan 12, 2011 at 07:20:02PM -0500, Luke Bergen wrote: > so, being the benevolent dictator for life of the bpfk that you > are, can you just define it that way? From what I'm hearing, it > sounds like it doesn't have a very firm definition as it is now. > > On Wed, Jan 12, 2011 at 7:16 PM, Robin Lee Powell < > rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org> wrote: > > > On Wed, Jan 12, 2011 at 07:14:01PM -0500, Luke Bergen wrote: > > > With all this talk of {sa}, what about {ra}? It seems like it > > > would have a similar set of issues. > > > > No, not at all. With {sa} you have to be able to emit arbitrary > > bullshit and at the end it's still grammatical. At the *parser* > > level. {ra} issues are purely semantic; how to parse it is not in > > question. > > > > > ta'onai when I see {sa} I usually assume something like "cut all > > > the words back to the last {.i}". Is coding something like that > > > in PEG possible? > > > > Trivial. That would be a *fantastic* version of {sa} from a parsing > > perspective. Sooooo much better than the current version. > > > > -Robin > > > > -- > > http://singinst.org/ : Our last, best hope for a fantastic future. > > Lojban (http://www.lojban.org/): The language in which "this parrot > > is dead" is "ti poi spitaki cu morsi", but "this sentence is false" > > is "na nei". My personal page: http://www.digitalkingdom.org/rlp/ > > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "lojban" group. > > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com > > . > > For more options, visit this group at > > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. > > > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >"lojban" group. > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at >http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. > -- http://singinst.org/ : Our last, best hope for a fantastic future. Lojban (http://www.lojban.org/): The language in which "this parrot is dead" is "ti poi spitaki cu morsi", but "this sentence is false" is "na nei". 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