From lojban+bncCIycn8S8DhC5l7zpBBoEkiINjg@googlegroups.com Thu Jan 13 06:27:23 2011 Received: from mail-vw0-f61.google.com ([209.85.212.61]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1PdO8y-0002iy-JY; Thu, 13 Jan 2011 06:27:23 -0800 Received: by vws1 with SMTP id 1sf2322216vws.16 for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2011 06:27:10 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=/3L9gczDR1S/gKR2yPiMnQypVpuZDTQ6Xmlouwfyz+A=; b=ef7VUsvW3dgJaiaf6Xkbq0w+9VzmszTjNRzJPBIg83H9Nod8Tfa6LuD4KIJ11Ri/Nw j3x0vHqF1wsGbrhCWxpF/WNejIs0gvSXS0aSXsgs9bc6uXTJXvO6oJMpTa4ILzpDRwUc 7Qi7D3eLs6JUHtTvXZab0I93BiWAAVQ6+G7sw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=S0pTRY+nswJCNxH4RM4De8g6rW2unpMmPpSVzPnuaM0J0vTvetPE/1oBl9LAFsULdV LVC7KXaU+xjQ/dC53A9jd/pBesouVTKKiFdAe4RQHLCFlR+zn0pp8IKqIGLnk38mK0hI Zf7zc5JvvdUNLJ+cxQgOp531TTj1RJN8O/6i8= Received: by 10.220.74.80 with SMTP id t16mr155376vcj.38.1294928825468; Thu, 13 Jan 2011 06:27:05 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.220.89.74 with SMTP id d10ls202239vcm.5.p; Thu, 13 Jan 2011 06:27:04 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.220.46.148 with SMTP id j20mr1313520vcf.27.1294928824552; Thu, 13 Jan 2011 06:27:04 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.220.46.148 with SMTP id j20mr1313519vcf.27.1294928824538; Thu, 13 Jan 2011 06:27:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-qw0-f49.google.com (mail-qw0-f49.google.com [209.85.216.49]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id a11si8403vci.15.2011.01.13.06.27.03; Thu, 13 Jan 2011 06:27:03 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of mturniansky@gmail.com designates 209.85.216.49 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.216.49; Received: by mail-qw0-f49.google.com with SMTP id 9so1762660qwj.36 for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2011 06:27:03 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.211.206 with SMTP id gp14mr1949138qcb.289.1294928823305; Thu, 13 Jan 2011 06:27:03 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.229.213.204 with HTTP; Thu, 13 Jan 2011 06:27:03 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <20110113024007.GE1262@alice.local> Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2011 09:27:03 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] will you help me understand BAhE+BU? From: Michael Turniansky To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: mturniansky@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of mturniansky@gmail.com designates 209.85.216.49 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=mturniansky@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable 2011/1/13 Jorge Llamb=EDas : > On Wed, Jan 12, 2011 at 11:40 PM, .alyn.post. > wrote: >> >> =A0What does BAhE+BU do? > [...] >> =A0The phrases describing {ba'e} are quite >> unclear to me, and they seem a bit contradictory (which could be >> because the phrases are coming from documents with different >> opinions on the matter.) > > Exactly. There are two options for BAhE BU, both can be defended, and > until we have an grammar there is no definitive official answer. > (According to the current PEG it appears to be an emphasized BU, not a > converted BAhE.) > > mu'o mi'e xorxes > ...although ISTM that a symbol meaning "ba'e" (i.e. a ba'ebu) might be a more (ba'e) useful thing to have in the language than an emphasized bu. I'm still mystified by the meaning of ba'e pe'a, personally... --gejyspa --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegrou= ps.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= ?hl=3Den.