From lojban+bncCL-Ey5qiChDKtLzpBBoExPAqAw@googlegroups.com Thu Jan 13 07:29:30 2011 Received: from mail-wy0-f189.google.com ([74.125.82.189]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1PdP77-000636-It; Thu, 13 Jan 2011 07:29:30 -0800 Received: by wyb35 with SMTP id 35sf2180605wyb.16 for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2011 07:29:18 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=M6yIVAME/4qe5OJ9Akzw2mXCp3+l8fkOXaFhaLkd+Kk=; b=0IAWrXduN7RVm+HbmHvsBZwZNio8Oj+3MPWQRv4vrqIgp1B4vlUeU32SRYM6KpXpQz vjita0BWCs1nhsLxmYtYCh3wRoGWkOPXi2KZu3LcXkPK+lNkXHdQCMpfelm1/SK0D7QF mnif5B2wawMMFK7eoSSzhPccJz1FYVj9QRDAo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=n8FeiWjgbTTql6d8cgkHAZPK+OkvIw3dOkgLHvWo8/H4J9YQyADg/FxpIr1LqrrHax pD1FuNBAIRI/cCT79lRUE2QTIfRCzXHmA9/Act6eYuLHRwpZ68hGaeZQebHZVcNCTd57 Qjj3uY64YTehkEhltQ9wHnEOJ6B6SxNoCjoXw= Received: by 10.216.159.205 with SMTP id s55mr185874wek.12.1294932554088; Thu, 13 Jan 2011 07:29:14 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.227.6.216 with SMTP id a24ls730546wba.2.p; Thu, 13 Jan 2011 07:29:13 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.227.135.17 with SMTP id l17mr129998wbt.19.1294932552880; Thu, 13 Jan 2011 07:29:12 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.227.135.17 with SMTP id l17mr129997wbt.19.1294932552816; Thu, 13 Jan 2011 07:29:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-wy0-f177.google.com (mail-wy0-f177.google.com [74.125.82.177]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id y33si21196wbd.6.2011.01.13.07.29.11; Thu, 13 Jan 2011 07:29:11 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of craigbdaniel@gmail.com designates 74.125.82.177 as permitted sender) client-ip=74.125.82.177; Received: by wyf22 with SMTP id 22so1775473wyf.36 for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2011 07:29:11 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.227.138.129 with SMTP id a1mr2482842wbu.37.1294932551340; Thu, 13 Jan 2011 07:29:11 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.227.39.73 with HTTP; Thu, 13 Jan 2011 07:29:11 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20110113151853.GA2719@alice.local> References: <20110113024007.GE1262@alice.local> <20110113151853.GA2719@alice.local> Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2011 10:29:11 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] will you help me understand BAhE+BU? From: Craig Daniel To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: craigbdaniel@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of craigbdaniel@gmail.com designates 74.125.82.177 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=craigbdaniel@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 10:18 AM, .alyn.post. wrote: > > My understanding of what the PEG grammar currently does is consider > ba'e bu to be a letteral, and not an emphasized BU. =A0If it was an > emphasized bu, {ba'e bu} shouldn't parse and {.alyn. ba'e bu} should > be the letteral .alyn., neither of which are PEG-true. > > I'm totally happy for {ba'e bu} to be a letteral. =A0If it is, the Magic > Words page should just say that. > > If this is a contest, I would rather {ba'e bu} be an emphasized {bu} > and we (I) should fix the parser to handle it that way. There's certainly a case to be made that magic words should be processed first, in which case BAhE+BU is a letteral. On the other hand, things tend to bind left-to-right (UI mark things to the left, but don't actually bind with them); if magic words are not handled first, then BAhE+BU ought to be emphasizing the BU. I don't believe there is an official answer to this, but I'm in favor of magic words first, then left to right. That is, ba'ebu is a letteral, zoi si uses si as a delimiter (this part is unamibiguously and I believe officially correct; magic words go left to right), and ba'e pe'a emphasizes the figurativeness. - mi'e .kreig. --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegrou= ps.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= ?hl=3Den.