From lojban+bncCK30vq5WEI6pvekEGgT2IFKM@googlegroups.com Thu Jan 13 11:38:09 2011 Received: from mail-pz0-f61.google.com ([209.85.210.61]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1PdSzh-000218-2s; Thu, 13 Jan 2011 11:38:09 -0800 Received: by pzk9 with SMTP id 9sf189601pzk.16 for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2011 11:37:55 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:x-beenthere:received-spf:date:from:to:subject :message-id:references:mime-version:in-reply-to:user-agent :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type :content-disposition; bh=EKl+xaPRLzUGJOyBn1mxKXXGj82k6ED9feUpzG+n55Y=; b=CNiJ8NKCXxUirIIW+3n9A7IfPDbKSSMto++rcU9ckn4wxjpPyJ9iqz/CVgE4I5rUBA WA5LieLYsasYMBg5dGxnTgrbVb0yKw1+E6ndnaKSEotPwaTpRSjiDcnJQA4lXC6x3bI4 S6YrJhVo3cWjx07sjIoiiDZAfEokqATlxfafA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:date:from:to:subject:message-id:references :mime-version:in-reply-to:user-agent:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type:content-disposition; b=tZ83afaJqbtFfPVdO2FCb8Ns30y98QM8xQnhYIcs7+D7SRdv9BaD/9SeENrg0SK+Tx r4FM5DZqy3O494SRVmi9Hq8oniNtTqmFHqtsc51gbzHkb3ZfUF+CDgrtNtcy5pJGGYdU FCqPypO8zJJ2YERf1p9ULeOOvNPs1/rmvrCpU= Received: by 10.142.188.5 with SMTP id l5mr71700wff.6.1294947470409; Thu, 13 Jan 2011 11:37:50 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.142.97.18 with SMTP id u18ls2398876wfb.2.p; Thu, 13 Jan 2011 11:37:48 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.142.155.11 with SMTP id c11mr990182wfe.65.1294947468892; Thu, 13 Jan 2011 11:37:48 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.142.155.11 with SMTP id c11mr990181wfe.65.1294947468871; Thu, 13 Jan 2011 11:37:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org (digitalkingdom.org [173.13.139.234]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id f13si422473wfo.4.2011.01.13.11.37.48 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Thu, 13 Jan 2011 11:37:48 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org designates 173.13.139.234 as permitted sender) client-ip=173.13.139.234; Received: from rlpowell by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1PdSzS-00020t-V6 for lojban@googlegroups.com; Thu, 13 Jan 2011 11:37:47 -0800 Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2011 11:37:46 -0800 From: Robin Lee Powell To: Lojban List Subject: Re: [lojban] will you help me understand BAhE+BU? Message-ID: <20110113193746.GB2132@digitalkingdom.org> References: <20110113024007.GE1262@alice.local> MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20110113024007.GE1262@alice.local> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-Original-Sender: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org designates 173.13.139.234 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline On Wed, Jan 12, 2011 at 07:40:07PM -0700, .alyn.post. wrote: > I'm trying to make sense of various statements about Magic Words on > the wiki: > > (BAhE, even though it can modify any word, is not a magic word, > because it doesn't affect the function of the word it modifies)[1] I wonder what would happen if I simply declared by fiat that ba'e is deprecated, and you should use ge'e or another UI instead (since AFAICT they have exactly the same "meaning" (or, rather, lack of meaning)), and in 2 years if no insurmountable problems are found it'll be removed from the grammar? This strikes me as about the largest change I could make without immediately being tossed out on my ass. -_- -Robin -- http://singinst.org/ : Our last, best hope for a fantastic future. Lojban (http://www.lojban.org/): The language in which "this parrot is dead" is "ti poi spitaki cu morsi", but "this sentence is false" is "na nei". My personal page: http://www.digitalkingdom.org/rlp/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en.