From lojban+bncCLr6ktCfBBCB2sjpBBoEK7MnmA@googlegroups.com Sat Jan 15 15:26:10 2011 Received: from mail-pz0-f61.google.com ([209.85.210.61]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1PeFVV-0004H9-Pj; Sat, 15 Jan 2011 15:26:10 -0800 Received: by pzk9 with SMTP id 9sf449079pzk.16 for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2011 15:26:00 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:x-beenthere:received-spf:date:from:to:subject :message-id:mail-followup-to:references:mime-version:in-reply-to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type :content-disposition; bh=BreHGJevOp6D0DMz5CTwgtMvVSEcGvLbaP2ZTZsbI+E=; b=A/qx19tdBZxO9C/lniws/d222CedEQ8VawbrAVvyxlGIbBVdAt0ROHHnh/5bTZNk1R vgCppFb+tU2u9eniYsV5Oadk3q+RQSM0aW0tRSd8R7VTGHjS/mR2qje+HJz+ajDdvBT7 eC+YRYwxFKJ8JEKIfYLamSLTGIqTsnBQcjVcw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:date:from:to:subject:message-id :mail-followup-to:references:mime-version:in-reply-to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type :content-disposition; b=wP966sW2h4WPCjgcHPd5MqVt5aBcfQodIUCOv0vkeNl98ViFTJP5V09w9GNp+lQpr0 vcY1j3L09/iwWZZNNfQAUr0524KED+8yquQV95eWIj2DtiIx71WmrQMsP5s5YrzV6+O4 uBdjlsXq9viOXFXml7Szl3ZUknUALu5+iieVI= Received: by 10.142.52.20 with SMTP id z20mr121721wfz.55.1295133954003; Sat, 15 Jan 2011 15:25:54 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.142.121.31 with SMTP id t31ls5089616wfc.3.p; Sat, 15 Jan 2011 15:25:53 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.142.172.3 with SMTP id u3mr803193wfe.31.1295133953345; Sat, 15 Jan 2011 15:25:53 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.142.172.3 with SMTP id u3mr803192wfe.31.1295133953322; Sat, 15 Jan 2011 15:25:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-pv0-f176.google.com (mail-pv0-f176.google.com [74.125.83.176]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id f13si3171153wfo.4.2011.01.15.15.25.53; Sat, 15 Jan 2011 15:25:53 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 74.125.83.176 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of alanpost@sunflowerriver.org) client-ip=74.125.83.176; Received: by pvb32 with SMTP id 32so699318pvb.21 for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2011 15:25:53 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.142.204.15 with SMTP id b15mr2050890wfg.66.1295133952972; Sat, 15 Jan 2011 15:25:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from sunflowerriver.org (c-68-35-167-179.hsd1.nm.comcast.net [68.35.167.179]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id w14sm3961282wfd.6.2011.01.15.15.25.50 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sat, 15 Jan 2011 15:25:51 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2011 16:25:48 -0700 From: ".alyn.post." To: lojban@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] question about ku Message-ID: <20110115232548.GB7994@alice.local> Mail-Followup-To: lojban@googlegroups.com References: Mime-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: X-Original-Sender: alyn.post@lodockikumazvati.org X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: 74.125.83.176 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of alanpost@sunflowerriver.org) smtp.mail=alanpost@sunflowerriver.org Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 06:11:14PM -0500, Luke Bergen wrote: > I don't know why it just occurred to me but... what exactly is "ku" > terminatiging in "baku mi citka"? Is there an implicit "lo" so that > parsers see this as /really/ being something like "baloku mi citka"? Or is > ku just able to terminate "ba"? I didn't know that BA had a terminator... > either way something feels strange. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "lojban" group. > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. That's a weird one. camxes reports: baku mi citka text sentence |- terms | |- term1 | | |- CMAVO | | | PU: ba | | |- CMAVO | | KU: ku | |- CMAVO | KOhA: mi |- BRIVLA gismu: citka And looking at the grammar: term-1 <- sumti / ( !gek ( tag / FA-clause free* ) ( sumti / KU-clause? free* ) ) / termset / NA-clause KU-clause free* The second ordered choice is the relevant production: ( !gek ( tag / FA-clause free* ) ( sumti / KU-clause? free* ) ) Where the tag rule is eventually matching "ba" and the KU-clause rule is matching ku. I can't tell what that KU-clause is doing there, it's in the EBNF too. -Alan -- .i ko djuno fi le do sevzi -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en.