From lojban+bncCJ2UzZHuDRCG_frpBBoEEMlsJw@googlegroups.com Tue Jan 25 04:14:17 2011 Received: from mail-wy0-f189.google.com ([74.125.82.189]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Phhml-0002gK-2v; Tue, 25 Jan 2011 04:14:17 -0800 Received: by wyb35 with SMTP id 35sf6501673wyb.16 for ; Tue, 25 Jan 2011 04:14:04 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=d26hGHOYVOpk/w7VwCoKWg4i2itsH5b9p/VDCpKwfBU=; b=mA2rEgIeHm3gVepUQlHvImob/VqRQy7q1oEPco+FipBX3m6Uytn/GKfyLKpke8k+FO ZViVH35b7mPXUzfbJMV2thKlzMYnypTcePLnVNa/GCIsSykZLMjmPWsMqbLGv/OjFwdO Mj+ri5wZz9GRKJucV/MWwy0L62shH2otoHtag= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=d0rRtXWz8U0p0i/FpmcxGCunBvxxC4tm85PGSElk/1dXvnHlHsr6DRpjVQlAe5CZIr tWBfzCmWlQHjeMoQr2wCvrS4F2Ixli0wujLxRXlzRaZuxMgTgbLkZ/aMwVfS0bLOz8Bz 6bs6kVAKDQIuruVRD2Md7SkztLuQY6QKQsYLY= Received: by 10.216.52.200 with SMTP id e50mr638203wec.25.1295957638672; Tue, 25 Jan 2011 04:13:58 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.216.208.4 with SMTP id p4ls2439986weo.2.p; Tue, 25 Jan 2011 04:13:57 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.216.70.145 with SMTP id p17mr323603wed.0.1295957637903; Tue, 25 Jan 2011 04:13:57 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.216.70.145 with SMTP id p17mr323602wed.0.1295957637847; Tue, 25 Jan 2011 04:13:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-ww0-f42.google.com (mail-ww0-f42.google.com [74.125.82.42]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id f60si1254461wes.10.2011.01.25.04.13.56 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Tue, 25 Jan 2011 04:13:56 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 74.125.82.42 as permitted sender) client-ip=74.125.82.42; Received: by mail-ww0-f42.google.com with SMTP id 17so3751922wwi.5 for ; Tue, 25 Jan 2011 04:13:56 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.227.146.142 with SMTP id h14mr5880875wbv.106.1295957636078; Tue, 25 Jan 2011 04:13:56 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.227.54.10 with HTTP; Tue, 25 Jan 2011 04:13:55 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20110125035753.GA29282@alice.local> References: <20110124162504.GB27137@alice.local> <20110125010310.GA26224@digitalkingdom.org> <20110125035753.GA29282@alice.local> Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2011 09:13:55 -0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] zoi bug in camxes? From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?= To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: jjllambias@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 74.125.82.42 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=jjllambias@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 12:57 AM, .alyn.post. wrote: >> >> CLL: "The cmavo =93zoi=94 (of selma'o ZOI) is a quotation mark for quoti= ng >> non-Lojban text. Its syntax is =93zoi X. text .X=94, where X is a Lojban >> word (called the delimiting word) which is separated from the quoted >> text by pauses, and which is not found in the written text or spoken >> phoneme stream." > > I always assumed that this description was describing (in a PEG > grammar with an '=3D' operator I'm inventing for this purpose): > > zoi <- zoi-open=3Dany-lojban-word pause (!(pause? zoi-open) .)* pause zoi= -open > > Namely, that we read a X as any-lojban-word, store the value, then > we read a *character at a time* until we find another X. =A0In this case > "quoted text" is a character stream, not itself broken into discrete > words and therefor not subject to differentiation between gyrate and > gyration. > > I believe this description makes the CLL consistent with itself. =A0It > is the only way I make sense of the example given. =A0I'm not suggesting > this is the behavior the PEG grammar should have, though I certainly > wonder if this is what is being described in the text above. No, that doesn't agree with the CLL requirement of a pause in front of the second delimiter, because you are disallowing X even in places not preceded by a pause. mu'o mi'e xorxes --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegrou= ps.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= ?hl=3Den.