From lojban+bncCLr6ktCfBBDPm_3pBBoEdDG-eQ@googlegroups.com Tue Jan 25 14:25:44 2011 Received: from mail-gx0-f189.google.com ([209.85.161.189]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1PhrKP-0005jf-Fi; Tue, 25 Jan 2011 14:25:44 -0800 Received: by gxk19 with SMTP id 19sf4772740gxk.16 for ; Tue, 25 Jan 2011 14:25:24 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:x-beenthere:received-spf:date:from:to:subject :message-id:mail-followup-to:references:mime-version:in-reply-to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type :content-disposition:content-transfer-encoding; bh=DCXxxFSOL2COOTxj8Nki+putK6+SIyp3FE7Dx6imhe0=; b=vl/+ir4Gd87emGK7uxsx7VTc9RD4mvG8TVxtlfZrrTCby7BvKtd8IuuiiSLvySOoE/ 19kqQWt1Nv8Hv4flK/CZoikgzt6T8CyEoLhvAq9E3fSB7YH1eTXL539l+krSHxKGy3E1 Did33gJG56GEkDOj1XpmVhz7KFfYZBd8h/pnI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:date:from:to:subject:message-id :mail-followup-to:references:mime-version:in-reply-to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type :content-disposition:content-transfer-encoding; b=51RePDYGWq1mT11cgVaVmZMEA/eDDkcSi2R5iXcJZVmnlwBvet/ya3FZsRipZoxbc8 KhOfhF9Swk+tOqHV9DWvbkSu7U0w0DnMdeNrcbUuLxu2NjUqgWpEBntxbmQ0TxHJRcbo sE0ZuItaN5LdzI3xQrwQ3RGajlX+S59hhezCg= Received: by 10.150.50.10 with SMTP id x10mr29377ybx.1.1295994319265; Tue, 25 Jan 2011 14:25:19 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.150.111.2 with SMTP id j2ls30951ybc.0.p; Tue, 25 Jan 2011 14:25:18 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.236.105.196 with SMTP id k44mr137547yhg.28.1295994318616; Tue, 25 Jan 2011 14:25:18 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.236.105.196 with SMTP id k44mr137546yhg.28.1295994318602; Tue, 25 Jan 2011 14:25:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-yx0-f180.google.com (mail-yx0-f180.google.com [209.85.213.180]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id g10si151489yhd.13.2011.01.25.14.25.18 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Tue, 25 Jan 2011 14:25:18 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 209.85.213.180 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of alanpost@sunflowerriver.org) client-ip=209.85.213.180; Received: by yxd30 with SMTP id 30so1665419yxd.11 for ; Tue, 25 Jan 2011 14:25:18 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.100.94.14 with SMTP id r14mr4252352anb.261.1295994318350; Tue, 25 Jan 2011 14:25:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from sunflowerriver.org (173-10-243-253-Albuquerque.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [173.10.243.253]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id d15sm18206544ana.15.2011.01.25.14.25.16 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Tue, 25 Jan 2011 14:25:17 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2011 15:25:14 -0700 From: ".alyn.post." To: lojban@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] zoi bug in camxes? Message-ID: <20110125222514.GD35838@alice.local> Mail-Followup-To: lojban@googlegroups.com References: <20110125010006.GZ26224@digitalkingdom.org> <3251036.256.1295936084612.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@yqcj39> <20110125070730.GB26224@digitalkingdom.org> <20110125171957.GF26224@digitalkingdom.org> <20110125173607.GA30364@alice.local> Mime-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: X-Original-Sender: alyn.post@lodockikumazvati.org X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: 209.85.213.180 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of alanpost@sunflowerriver.org) smtp.mail=alanpost@sunflowerriver.org Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 07:13:01PM -0300, Jorge Llamb=EDas wrote: > On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 2:36 PM, .alyn.post. > wrote: > > > > From the conversation, I can summarize three separate proposals: > > > > 1) leave the PEG grammar alone and correct the CLL to describe the > > =A0 way this grammar is behaving. >=20 > This is currently my preference. >=20 > > 2) replace the rule for zoi-word to match non-lojban-word rather > > =A0 than any-word, so 'gyrate' won't be divided into three words, > > =A0 satisfying Robin's consistency argument. =A0We'll still need to > > =A0 update the CLL for the behavior, I think. >=20 > Notice that "gyrate" does NOT match "non-lojban-word" (and neither > does "gyrations" for that matter). You probably mean something else, > some new rule like "string-of-phonemes-without-space <- non-space+". > This also relates to the ZOhOI proposal. >=20 Ah, I'm proposing to remove the !lojban-word from the non-lojban-word production, as it is redundant -- non-lojban-word is used in an ordered choice operator for which the preceding rule is lojban-word, which obviates the need for it in that case. That is the only reference. -Alan --=20 .i ko djuno fi le do sevzi --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegrou= ps.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= ?hl=3Den.