From lojban+bncCNTPpI2KGxDS9pHpBBoEPQQfDA@googlegroups.com Wed Jan 05 06:08:33 2011 Received: from mail-qw0-f61.google.com ([209.85.216.61]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1PaU2P-00052n-7A; Wed, 05 Jan 2011 06:08:33 -0800 Received: by qwd6 with SMTP id 6sf52671464qwd.16 for ; Wed, 05 Jan 2011 06:08:23 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:x-authority-analysis:x-cloudmark-score :x-originating-ip:received:received:from:to:subject:date:user-agent :references:in-reply-to:mime-version:message-id:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :content-disposition; bh=ft6Yw6Y4kl1EisANC++2qRDjmpY8RpLYcQypMFWMgwU=; b=O1gLTeRoCKPTxeHqjuAki+CatDeFZH4VjJ+eWUQt3pphlf5OE/2vajW696w/AxcuNi S93fgjikCeTwzJEa0MNYzU1gR1j1qQ/WqDbLSFmhbeCwNlMsv0gngepoSmSMWoUsKLsZ yPEkxUCEc8oB7vYmLTR1FBwQrUM4qSQjQFJzM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:x-authority-analysis:x-cloudmark-score :x-originating-ip:from:to:subject:date:user-agent:references :in-reply-to:mime-version:message-id:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :content-disposition; b=o2dRR+EvALWIGtJ7k12GurN4PaVgjBf7bVNTwrCsvTlLJmgov/2ppL2bwuJ6WFlYFq kBxVsnTDtA6QaFQ9DNXrPlw0wsx3sSH4tE8zH+QWtjZ5Khn4Ny7I1gbnQ3fdvPHqMMX9 qxDxw2zYsZb1w3COr17KZsPL8MGKGWUxU3kec= Received: by 10.229.2.1 with SMTP id 1mr3176084qch.11.1294236498958; Wed, 05 Jan 2011 06:08:18 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.229.75.218 with SMTP id z26ls5181405qcj.3.p; Wed, 05 Jan 2011 06:08:18 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.229.73.81 with SMTP id p17mr2471904qcj.15.1294236498116; Wed, 05 Jan 2011 06:08:18 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.229.73.81 with SMTP id p17mr2471903qcj.15.1294236498063; Wed, 05 Jan 2011 06:08:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id ey28si4282650qcb.7.2011.01.05.06.08.17; Wed, 05 Jan 2011 06:08:18 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 75.180.132.120 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of phma@phma.optus.nu) client-ip=75.180.132.120; X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=3jtQBdTzPyV+fq4oCU/u8ZPrJJGN11HvhaDVxyWhycI= c=1 sm=0 a=wPDyFdB5xvgA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=9o99xeNKNPYSmM5t9x5+TQ==:17 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=8wmT3hdfp6mBN04UsfcA:9 a=pxYNC8pGnwnI7Bmy4_c0xGWAJBwA:4 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=MSl-tDqOz04A:10 a=9o99xeNKNPYSmM5t9x5+TQ==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 75.176.118.168 Received: from [75.176.118.168] ([75.176.118.168:50544] helo=chausie) by cdptpa-oedge02.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id 20/55-02631-15B742D4; Wed, 05 Jan 2011 14:08:17 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by chausie (Postfix) with ESMTP id D79B76301 for ; Wed, 5 Jan 2011 09:08:16 -0500 (EST) From: Pierre Abbat To: lojban@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: larlermorna Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2011 09:08:12 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.6 (enterprise 0.20070907.709405) References: <3460195.1058.1293997919114.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@prho17> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <201101050908.14491.phma@phma.optus.nu> X-Original-Sender: phma@phma.optus.nu X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: 75.180.132.120 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of phma@phma.optus.nu) smtp.mail=phma@phma.optus.nu Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline On Wednesday 05 January 2011 08:39:32 Michael Turniansky wrote: > On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 8:28 AM, Remo Dentato wrote: > > I now see=A0what you mean, but this is an intrinsic flaw due to using > > simmetrical symbols. It could be alleviated by the type of decorations = or > > by using a non symmetrical symbol for {ni'o} or for {.i}, ... > > Well, of course it's not a problem if you have an y'y anywhere in > there, since that is non symmetrical. > --xoisvyrei ".i" is asymmetrical, as the dot is on the bottom and the dot never appears= on=20 top. And anyone who grew up with this abugida could instantly tell that wor= ds=20 like "koimmai", "xoisvyrei", and "gxuei" are upside down. Pierre --=20 li ze te'a ci vu'u ci bi'e te'a mu du li ci su'i ze te'a mu bi'e vu'u ci --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegrou= ps.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= ?hl=3Den.