From lojban+bncCOib25n_BhD5t5PqBBoE7hRFtQ@googlegroups.com Sat Jan 29 19:33:28 2011 Received: from mail-yw0-f61.google.com ([209.85.213.61]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1PjO2X-0005Uh-P1; Sat, 29 Jan 2011 19:33:28 -0800 Received: by ywh1 with SMTP id 1sf2821765ywh.16 for ; Sat, 29 Jan 2011 19:33:20 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=YilUk0+2ZxEfHa4WWRnLci3XFqDvi0VcSrvLrbDpuPg=; b=nPdIRH4j3go3OEhC5BwzeyZrfkJXyvD5UDNB+CAL5RxZtGpBB9Y2NK9s8UZy1y1MUp c9Daxk4Jn1H2Tz0OnG2fisN3SNRQ/vys7VczJr5AZPb7fnJmMqBfQ6tbOEjjbfaoByKX Yp7KQBF4JOA6b2K6tlf4sbEf3Pl6K84txX3ds= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=GPSzlHbX1b89btnuVQtMsCQfWNt4vHg0ee8fNiLFEyxS+vMBwQzDJgBWXffqWL2uPq fHJw1DQTerPbqlLE9E1TN6oJ9I+AC41pmBLBkNAttJbF32OdIm8at8QyJowF9H6nHT77 pYEi/ByTEem+dvWGc8/GEgwgOOOmLSscInj+8= Received: by 10.90.49.18 with SMTP id w18mr399730agw.32.1296358393482; Sat, 29 Jan 2011 19:33:13 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.231.76.165 with SMTP id c37ls1844558ibk.3.p; Sat, 29 Jan 2011 19:33:12 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.231.15.203 with SMTP id l11mr2219434iba.6.1296358392819; Sat, 29 Jan 2011 19:33:12 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.231.15.203 with SMTP id l11mr2219433iba.6.1296358392791; Sat, 29 Jan 2011 19:33:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-iy0-f176.google.com (mail-iy0-f176.google.com [209.85.210.176]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id j25si4671530ibb.0.2011.01.29.19.33.11 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sat, 29 Jan 2011 19:33:11 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of rpglover64@gmail.com designates 209.85.210.176 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.210.176; Received: by iyb26 with SMTP id 26so4372367iyb.7 for ; Sat, 29 Jan 2011 19:33:11 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.42.165.73 with SMTP id j9mr5964354icy.489.1296358391384; Sat, 29 Jan 2011 19:33:11 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.42.172.67 with HTTP; Sat, 29 Jan 2011 19:33:11 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2011 22:33:11 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] Random Zipfy question From: Alex Rozenshteyn To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: rpglover64@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of rpglover64@gmail.com designates 209.85.210.176 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=rpglover64@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=90e6ba6e86746b898d049b07f5cb --90e6ba6e86746b898d049b07f5cb Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Also, wouldn't we care more about syllable usage? In which case, "and" and "joi" are as good. On Sat, Jan 29, 2011 at 10:13 PM, Luke Bergen wrote: > before getting too high on our galxirma do keep in mind that a (probably > more) common form of english "and" takes 3 letters in lojban also... {joi} > ;) > > > On Sat, Jan 29, 2011 at 10:08 PM, Michael Turniansky < > mturniansky@gmail.com> wrote: > >> How come Spanish, Polish, Hebrew and lojban use only a single letter >> for the concept "and", and English uses three? Why are we so >> inefficient? >> >> Inquiring minds want to know.... >> --gejyspa >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "lojban" group. >> To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com >> . >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. >> >> > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "lojban" group. > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. > -- Alex R -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. --90e6ba6e86746b898d049b07f5cb Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Also, wouldn't we care more about syllable usage? =A0In which case, &qu= ot;and" and "joi" are as good.

On Sat, Jan 29, 2011 at 10:13 PM, Luke Bergen <lukeabergen@gmail.com>= wrote:
before getting too high on our galxirma do = keep in mind that a (probably more) common form of english "and" = takes 3 letters in lojban also... {joi} =A0;)


On Sat, Jan= 29, 2011 at 10:08 PM, Michael Turniansky <mturniansky@gmail.com&g= t; wrote:
=A0How come Spanish, Polish, Hebrew and loj= ban use only a single letter
for the concept "and", and English uses three? =A0Why are we so inefficient?

=A0Inquiring minds want to know....
=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0--gejyspa

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