From lojban+bncCMHEmaCOBhC9ppbqBBoEBfTstA@googlegroups.com Sun Jan 30 08:35:26 2011 Received: from mail-gx0-f189.google.com ([209.85.161.189]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1PjaFE-0006Tt-UF; Sun, 30 Jan 2011 08:35:26 -0800 Received: by gxk19 with SMTP id 19sf3186848gxk.16 for ; Sun, 30 Jan 2011 08:35:15 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=3dYhe/RcjQcx2/aLuLF4Zojwx1whGBbiirqGG5bunXY=; b=N9AyxFn48nsPlgT+LpY33j0LVxZ7NJBCpdFfMnjzM0NAD1gVGNFnswhwh8lJLTYDKy d6hwupXSkAmnSRQkvRnND7qa1kVxYaWuL84mAS2/brBp1lSKjisoSmmFLSvwDER62dFv 5rvcu/qI3i/u09ee8ei6y3wMZrKx0v9B6H/Mk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=rolJaDDkDWJzmk99nxorJr1S20oMqFYgEpbFER/eRsnJNI2ze6z5Zm9qNFdTnI4o62 eEi2DceA35ZBX1D45nMevazPuwFKbFhzLdPDnVWYpYSU1Ojqk4Yi7YIytKGT98PJQ0Rx Yygv0DHb64PcGthYl2tPTFZsI6Y0PVFGAjug4= Received: by 10.91.96.3 with SMTP id y3mr426217agl.41.1296405309212; Sun, 30 Jan 2011 08:35:09 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.231.2.82 with SMTP id 18ls2570175ibi.2.p; Sun, 30 Jan 2011 08:35:08 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.231.206.17 with SMTP id fs17mr2402822ibb.8.1296405308621; Sun, 30 Jan 2011 08:35:08 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.231.206.17 with SMTP id fs17mr2402821ibb.8.1296405308581; Sun, 30 Jan 2011 08:35:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-iw0-f176.google.com (mail-iw0-f176.google.com [209.85.214.176]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id d9si4802301ibq.3.2011.01.30.08.35.07 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sun, 30 Jan 2011 08:35:07 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 209.85.214.176 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.214.176; Received: by mail-iw0-f176.google.com with SMTP id 2so5239759iwn.21 for ; Sun, 30 Jan 2011 08:35:07 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.14.139 with SMTP id g11mr5407541iba.51.1296405307198; Sun, 30 Jan 2011 08:35:07 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.231.199.2 with HTTP; Sun, 30 Jan 2011 08:35:07 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20110130162815.GO26224@digitalkingdom.org> References: <20110130143640.GL26224@digitalkingdom.org> <20110130155352.GN26224@digitalkingdom.org> <20110130162815.GO26224@digitalkingdom.org> Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2011 09:35:07 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] Smart.fm going on subscription model. From: Jonathan Jones To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: eyeonus@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 209.85.214.176 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=eyeonus@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000325574812d20c98049b12e1a6 --000325574812d20c98049b12e1a6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Sun, Jan 30, 2011 at 9:28 AM, Robin Lee Powell < rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org> wrote: > On Sun, Jan 30, 2011 at 09:24:46AM -0700, Jonathan Jones wrote: > > On Sun, Jan 30, 2011 at 8:53 AM, Robin Lee Powell < > > rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org> wrote: > > > > > On Sun, Jan 30, 2011 at 06:36:40AM -0800, Robin Lee Powell wrote: > > > > On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 09:15:21PM -0800, Ali Sajid Imami wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Now that smart.fm is going on a subscription model, what > > > > > alternative would we have for that? > > > > > > > > Anki is the big one, but like Lindar I also liked the multiple > > > > choice aspect of smart.fm, which others do not have. > > > > > > > Is it possible to do multiple-choice in Anki? > > No: > http://ankisrs.net/docs/FrequentlyAskedQuestions.html#_can_i_do_multiple_choice_questions > Drat. > is there anything available now that is similar we could use? > > I am not aware of anything else that is multiple-choice based. > Double-drat. > > > > It might be worth us (and others) working on a new one; it > > > > could hardly be written any *worse* than smart.fm was. > > > > Someone has started a proto-community around this at > > > > http://twitter.com/openlanglearn > > > > By this, do you mean the Smart.fm code, or the Lojban lessons? I'm very > much > > hoping you mean the code, btw. :) > > Neither; the idea of making a free smart.fm clone. We don't have > the smart.fm code, nor any right to it. > You said "worse than smart.fm". I was asking if you meant that we could hardly write a /program/ worse than the Smart.fm one, or that we could hardly write a /lesson/ worse than the Smart.fm one. (And by program, as an example: The Mozilla Firefox team obviously does not have access to the M$ Internet Explorer source code, however, Firefox is (arguably) a much better program than IE is.(It is definitely better in terms of OS portability, for instance.)) > -Robin > > -- > http://singinst.org/ : Our last, best hope for a fantastic future. > Lojban (http://www.lojban.org/): The language in which "this parrot > is dead" is "ti poi spitaki cu morsi", but "this sentence is false" > is "na nei". 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On Sun, Jan 30, 2011 at 9:28 AM, Robin L= ee Powell <rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org> wrote:
On Sun, Jan 30, 2011 at 09:24:46AM -0700, Jonathan Jones = wrote:
> On Sun, Jan 30, 2011 at 8:53 AM, Robin Lee Powell <
> rlpowell@digitalkingdom= .org> wrote:
>
> > On Sun, Jan 30, 2011 at 06:36:40AM -0800, Robin Lee Powell wrote:=
> > > On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 09:15:21PM -0800, Ali Sajid Imami wr= ote:
> > > >
> > > > Now that = smart.fm is going on a subscription model, what
> > > > alternative would we have for that?
> > >
> > > Anki is the big one, but like Lindar I also liked the multip= le
> > > choice aspect of smart.fm, which others do not have.
> >
>
> Is it possible to do multiple-choice in Anki?

No: http://ankisrs.net/d= ocs/FrequentlyAskedQuestions.html#_can_i_do_multiple_choice_questions
=A0
Drat.

> is there anything available now that is similar we could use?

I am not aware of anything else that is multiple-choice based.

Double-drat.
=A0
> > > It might be worth us (and others) working on a new one; it > > > could hardly be written any *worse* than smart.fm was.
> > > Someone has started a proto-community around this at
> > > http://twitter.com/openlanglearn
>
> By this, do you mean the Smart.fm code, or the Lojban lessons? I'm= very much
> hoping you mean the code, btw. :)

Neither; the idea of making a free smart.fm clone. =A0We don't have
the smart.fm code, nor an= y right to it.

You said "worse than smart.fm". I was asking if you meant that we = could hardly write a /program/ worse than the Smart.fm one, or that we coul= d hardly write a /lesson/ worse than the Smart.fm one. (And by program, as = an example: The Mozilla Firefox team obviously does not have access to the = M$ Internet Explorer source code, however, Firefox is (arguably) a much bet= ter program than IE is.(It is definitely better in terms of OS portability,= for instance.))
=A0
-Robin

--
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Lojban (http://www.loj= ban.org/): The language in which "this parrot
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