From lojban+bncCPGMg4mHHBD_05TpBBoEb6giGg@googlegroups.com Wed Jan 05 18:33:52 2011 Received: from mail-vw0-f61.google.com ([209.85.212.61]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Paffe-0008E2-Q5; Wed, 05 Jan 2011 18:33:51 -0800 Received: by vws1 with SMTP id 1sf8957482vws.16 for ; Wed, 05 Jan 2011 18:33:40 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:mime-version:received:received :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=O7HE4W8CCecFGJQSe6ik224a1Rf01ffRQq1UbScKk3k=; b=H7HdlH248C1DhEgs7BLUIJXRuNsErZf7TEPi7WRJploBR6ub0cxGw4uuqtk/TRtCbZ BEQ0PTCapvLMvK4SidZCl8lI2ZDS/77LImNHCtEUgTD2Zb82SGA7IM0yR4+iJHUbH4WU AHTyIy21uaX9HFsjVIfRxJbeTZTiPfwS1pPcQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=HyofJ2vHDF0M2lQ9Nk1GSoBuvK1p1WbklHCbbkv6wDA15N7fRVukWuXyxBhDYQRlVN jvUNBKz/z7a6S37SY4yhD+W3osq1L3lELHotP64ejNudRc/pnoCSmP7I7E3v853w+ugr +dJs+41LGMz7C4y4fwvfsaVEa6PxPygeptQTU= Received: by 10.220.83.130 with SMTP id f2mr854539vcl.37.1294281215687; Wed, 05 Jan 2011 18:33:35 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.220.89.74 with SMTP id d10ls2123649vcm.5.p; Wed, 05 Jan 2011 18:33:35 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.220.178.65 with SMTP id bl1mr7110717vcb.0.1294281214935; Wed, 05 Jan 2011 18:33:34 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.220.178.65 with SMTP id bl1mr7110716vcb.0.1294281214909; Wed, 05 Jan 2011 18:33:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-qy0-f171.google.com (mail-qy0-f171.google.com [209.85.216.171]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id f21si2107540vbs.0.2011.01.05.18.33.33 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 05 Jan 2011 18:33:33 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of ivo.doko@gmail.com designates 209.85.216.171 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.216.171; Received: by qyk32 with SMTP id 32so17138766qyk.16 for ; Wed, 05 Jan 2011 18:33:33 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.224.28.213 with SMTP id n21mr22711637qac.64.1294281213599; Wed, 05 Jan 2011 18:33:33 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.220.176.71 with HTTP; Wed, 5 Jan 2011 18:33:33 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <9114501.161.1294150198377.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@yqhy19> <7c0687a1-deba-495a-9760-95d1d0649423@t8g2000prh.googlegroups.com> <20110105165231.GK17534@digitalkingdom.org> <20110105220532.GN17534@digitalkingdom.org> Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2011 03:33:33 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Lojban is *NOT* broken! Stop saying that! (was Re: [lojban] Re: Vote for the Future Global Language) From: Ivo Doko To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: ivo.doko@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of ivo.doko@gmail.com designates 209.85.216.171 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=ivo.doko@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001517503b26f9e2200499245380 --001517503b26f9e2200499245380 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 6 January 2011 03:17, Jonathan Jones wrote: > Waiter: Do you want cream or sugar in your coffee? > > Lojbanist: Yes. Proper response is "I do." :D Unless you drink your coffee with neither... Also, that would depend on the waiter's emphasis of the sentence: "Do you want CREAM or SUGAR in your coffee?" means: "Is this true: (You want cream in your coffee. =E2=8A=95 You want sugar in = your coffee.)?" "Do you WANT cream or sugar in your coffee?" means: "Is this true: (You want cream in your coffee. =E2=88=A8 You want sugar in = your coffee.)?" ("=E2=8A=95" is XOR, "=E2=88=A8" is OR.) So presuming the waiter emphasised "cream" and "sugar", not "want", "yes" o= r "I do" are not proper responses. --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegrou= ps.com. 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