From lojban+bncCOjSjrXVGBDbxuDqBBoENsQJzQ@googlegroups.com Sun Feb 13 10:31:09 2011 Received: from mail-yi0-f61.google.com ([209.85.218.61]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Pogiu-0008K5-95; Sun, 13 Feb 2011 10:31:09 -0800 Received: by yia27 with SMTP id 27sf3869386yia.16 for ; Sun, 13 Feb 2011 10:30:58 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version :in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=q9sytQ1zAuSH8SmkbgQC4T3A3fuZ3AsQQ8genimn0TQ=; b=tufwP6KOWtmuWWSM5jjN5nwfizC77nr/Dns3xZvQX4R25uFth5RO3CR0bYLV+3buHq S32x19W7ArHtGWweHwY7m9rg+x1QL+c2YQib5w3fXq6BNueY08DzzfaAriEyfYkLEF/a WwwlrngNjw3Mg+BXBGOT8XEr4JlpDzXMrED4g= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from :date:message-id:subject:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=6Y5kXwgQiJrRzLKuKJjBnz/jk8pGYvZ52r1pyt+arMZ6BD9Uq/LTcfzE6rc3PoyIQg 06bIxCNMeifiDVyfsRhV3Pln1fRXpmAlou1IWC+s7UAq/A9Ah73p9EgYbUBukc7d7tcD jcQ+kgbU9FZS39sFtMvZWqLuaadN3c+nThl2A= Received: by 10.90.95.10 with SMTP id s10mr279452agb.51.1297621851693; Sun, 13 Feb 2011 10:30:51 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.231.57.97 with SMTP id b33ls5066799ibh.0.p; Sun, 13 Feb 2011 10:30:51 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.42.178.202 with SMTP id bn10mr211931icb.75.1297621851064; Sun, 13 Feb 2011 10:30:51 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.42.178.202 with SMTP id bn10mr211930icb.75.1297621851053; Sun, 13 Feb 2011 10:30:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-iw0-f180.google.com (mail-iw0-f180.google.com [209.85.214.180]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id jo1si204613icb.5.2011.02.13.10.30.51 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 13 Feb 2011 10:30:51 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of lukeabergen@gmail.com designates 209.85.214.180 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.214.180; Received: by mail-iw0-f180.google.com with SMTP id 37so5341156iwn.25 for ; Sun, 13 Feb 2011 10:30:51 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.231.160.80 with SMTP id m16mr2222571ibx.106.1297621850847; Sun, 13 Feb 2011 10:30:50 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.199.19 with HTTP; Sun, 13 Feb 2011 10:30:30 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <287321641.20110213153406@altern.org> From: Luke Bergen Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2011 13:30:30 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] lo krinu be lo nu na tolpli zo toi To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: lukeabergen@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of lukeabergen@gmail.com designates 209.85.214.180 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=lukeabergen@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00504501662778f8f5049c2e2192 --00504501662778f8f5049c2e2192 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ahh, good catch. Also, I probably should have said {.iji'abo} though I'm not sure how important {bo} is when the thing attached to the {.i} is a discursive like that. 2011/2/13 Jorge Llamb=EDas > On Sun, Feb 13, 2011 at 2:36 PM, Luke Bergen > wrote: > > > > xorxes: (in subject) the reason for not not-using "toi" (the lojban > doesn't make that double negative look as odd as it does in english). > > "nalpli" would be "not-using". I think "tolpli" is more like > "avoiding" or "leaving out" or "eliding". > > mu'o mi'e xorxes > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "lojban" group. > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=3Den. > > --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegrou= ps.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= ?hl=3Den. --00504501662778f8f5049c2e2192 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
ahh, good catch. =A0Also, I probably should have said {.iji'abo} t= hough I'm not sure how important {bo} is when the thing attached to the= {.i} is a discursive like that.

2011/2/1= 3 Jorge Llamb=EDas <jjllambias@gmail.com>
On Sun, Feb 13, 2011 at 2= :36 PM, Luke Bergen <lukeaberge= n@gmail.com> wrote:
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> xorxes: (in subject) the reason for not not-using "toi" (the= lojban doesn't make that double negative look as odd as it does in eng= lish).

"nalpli" would be "not-using". I think "tolp= li" is more like
"avoiding" or "leaving out" or "eliding".

mu'o mi'e xorxes

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