From lojban+bncCOjSjrXVGBCGqoDrBBoEzYuPtw@googlegroups.com Sat Feb 19 11:08:07 2011 Received: from mail-yi0-f61.google.com ([209.85.218.61]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Pqs9x-0001Hd-VI; Sat, 19 Feb 2011 11:08:06 -0800 Received: by yia27 with SMTP id 27sf4070037yia.16 for ; Sat, 19 Feb 2011 11:07:56 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version :in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=wW+LlcS08Py229OiZu12lvCWjPcO0/lgQmIkPdL0pJw=; b=cCfmp+S0E3tXqVnxPsyW0KE7KZQa4b8uMDdbP00Dk2rfhyJXwOpK6M45lpS8cRLfvp zzxVSlUjcZldtGxMKR05GACeMm6DfQ4aad2ZK30AyRh8d1z11i8icP6fLttGbB2hi4bK yUINglIX97wpRENgpgiM24O/KbXHsf6pFuIKc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from :date:message-id:subject:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=o3Vn26B53tQVlOqys0lak/d8iyX/iSxC0475DUWR4aLelD6qVqMtXn0eHQ/6WsCin7 2IyWBSsogsyx/voStXBwDCPjaInU0Z7lRnPFMbVPLFQQ411JBsvj5Xbay2G4/HLeAu0P wr/P9ZIVXej0GhuoL2Hg28Y73IAPQNbkDTqwY= Received: by 10.151.47.13 with SMTP id z13mr344027ybj.21.1298142470332; Sat, 19 Feb 2011 11:07:50 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.231.2.82 with SMTP id 18ls3595515ibi.2.p; Sat, 19 Feb 2011 11:07:49 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.231.35.75 with SMTP id o11mr598041ibd.14.1298142469245; Sat, 19 Feb 2011 11:07:49 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.231.35.75 with SMTP id o11mr598040ibd.14.1298142469214; Sat, 19 Feb 2011 11:07:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-iw0-f178.google.com (mail-iw0-f178.google.com [209.85.214.178]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id cu19si731759ibb.1.2011.02.19.11.07.49 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sat, 19 Feb 2011 11:07:49 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of lukeabergen@gmail.com designates 209.85.214.178 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.214.178; Received: by mail-iw0-f178.google.com with SMTP id 9so467918iwn.23 for ; Sat, 19 Feb 2011 11:07:49 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.42.180.194 with SMTP id bv2mr2719351icb.171.1298142469069; Sat, 19 Feb 2011 11:07:49 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.199.141 with HTTP; Sat, 19 Feb 2011 11:07:29 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <201102170723.06908.phma@phma.optus.nu> <1037186455.20110219180524@altern.org> From: Luke Bergen Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2011 14:07:29 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] Bell the Cat To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: lukeabergen@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of lukeabergen@gmail.com designates 209.85.214.178 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=lukeabergen@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=90e6ba6e8c76bc9adc049ca758ae --90e6ba6e8c76bc9adc049ca758ae Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Yeah, I think if I were going to translate the idea it'd be something like: when it's dicussion time, the room is full of participants. But when it's doing time, everyone in the room vanishes. (which is also not an untrue comment about the jbocecmu most of the time ;) ) On Sat, Feb 19, 2011 at 1:03 PM, Alex Rozenshteyn wrote: > As I understood it, it was like this: > > The topic: the room is full during the evening. > The action: all the people disappear from the room. > > > On Sat, Feb 19, 2011 at 12:05 PM, Jerome wrote: > >> Hi Pierre, >> >> *PA> lo nu casnu zo'u lo kumfa cu culno ca'o lo vanci .i lo nu gasnu zo'u >> ro prenu lo kumfa cu canci >> >> *Please bear with me as I'm a complete beginner in Lojban and I have some >> trouble understanding your message, I would be very grateful if you could >> help translating it for me. >> >> Here is what I could get for the first sentence : >> >> >> lo nu casnu zo'u lo >> kumfa cu culno ca'o lo >> vanci >> An event-of discuss about : a room >> is full with [continuative] an evening >> >> Honestly, I could hardly make sense of this sentence, can you please help? >> >> As for the second sentence : >> >> >> >> .i lo nu gasnu zo'u ro >> prenu lo kumfa cu canci >> An event-of do : all persons >> a room disappear >> >> It doesn't make much sense for me either. >> >> It looks like I got something wrong, please help! :) >> >> Thanks in advance. >> >> mu'o mi'e jexom. >> >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "lojban" group. >> To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. >> > > > > -- > Alex R > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "lojban" group. > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. --90e6ba6e8c76bc9adc049ca758ae Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Yeah, I think if I were going to translate the idea it'd be something l= ike:
when it's dicussion time, the room is full of participants.
But when it's doing time, everyone in the room vanishes.
(which is also not an untrue comment about the jbocecmu most of the ti= me ;) )

On Sat, Feb 19, 2011 at 1:= 03 PM, Alex Rozenshteyn <rpglover64@gmail.com> wrote:
As I understood it, it was like this:
The topic: the room is full during the evening.
The action: all the pe= ople disappear from the room.


On Sat, Feb= 19, 2011 at 12:05 PM, Jerome <jige@altern.org> wrote:
Hi Pierre,<= br>
PA> lo nu casnu zo'u lo kumf= a cu culno ca'o lo vanci .i lo nu gasnu zo'u ro prenu lo kumfa cu c= anci

Please bear with me as I'm a com= plete beginner in Lojban and I have some trouble understanding your message= , I would be very grateful if you could help translating it for me.

Here is what I could get for the first sentence :


lo =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0nu =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0casnu =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 = =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0zo'u =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0lo =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0kumfa =A0 =A0 =A0 = =A0cu culno =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0ca'o =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0= =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0lo=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0vanci
An =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0event-of=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0discuss about =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0:= =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0a =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0room =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0is full with =A0 = =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0[continuative] =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0an =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0= evening

Honestly, I could hardly make sense of this sentence, can you please help?<= br>
As for the second sentence :



.i =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0lo=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0nu=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 = =A0gasnu=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0zo'u=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0ro=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0= prenu =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0lo=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0kumfa=A0 =A0 =A0 = =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0cu canci
=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0An =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0event-of =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0do =A0 =A0 =A0 = =A0: =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0all =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0persons =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0a =A0 =A0 =A0= =A0room =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0disappear

It doesn't make much sense for me either.

It looks like I got something wrong, please help! :)

Thanks in advance.

mu'o mi'e jexom.

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