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Sat, 19 Feb 2011 14:16:05 -0500 (EST) From: Pierre Abbat To: lojban@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] Bell the Cat Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2011 14:16:02 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.6 (enterprise 0.20070907.709405) References: <201102170723.06908.phma@phma.optus.nu> <1037186455.20110219180524@altern.org> In-Reply-To: <1037186455.20110219180524@altern.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <201102191416.03681.phma@phma.optus.nu> X-Original-Sender: phma@phma.optus.nu X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: 75.180.132.122 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of phma@phma.optus.nu) smtp.mail=phma@phma.optus.nu Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline On Saturday 19 February 2011 12:05:24 Jerome wrote: > Hi Pierre, > > PA> lo nu casnu zo'u lo kumfa cu culno ca'o lo vanci .i lo nu gasnu zo'u > ro prenu lo kumfa cu canci > > Please bear with me as I'm a complete beginner in Lojban and I have some > trouble understanding your message, I would be very grateful if you could > help translating it for me. > > Here is what I could get for the first sentence : > > lo =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0nu =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0casnu =A0 =A0 =A0 = =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0zo'u =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0lo =A0 =A0 =A0 > =A0kumfa =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0cu culno =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0ca'o =A0 = =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0lo=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 > =A0vanci An =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0event-of=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0discuss about =A0 = =A0 =A0 =A0:=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0a =A0 =A0 =A0 > =A0room =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0is full with =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0[conti= nuative] =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0an =A0 =A0 =A0 > =A0evening > > Honestly, I could hardly make sense of this sentence, can you please hel= p? > > As for the second sentence : > > > .i =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0lo=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0nu=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0= =A0gasnu=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0zo'u=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0ro=A0 =A0 =A0 > =A0 =A0prenu =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0lo=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0kumfa=A0= =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0cu canci An =A0 =A0 =A0 > =A0event-of =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0do =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0: =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0all =A0 =A0= =A0 =A0persons =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0a =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0room > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0disappear > > It doesn't make much sense for me either. > > It looks like I got something wrong, please help! :) > > Thanks in advance. > > mu'o mi'e jexom. When it comes to discussing, the room is full all evening; when it comes to= =20 doing, everyone leaves the room. Or, from the French: Must they deliberate,= =20 the court teems with counselors; must they execute, there's no one left. The scene is a group of mice who have assembled to discuss a cat who has be= en=20 threatening them. They discuss various proposals, one of which is to put a= =20 bell on the cat so that they can hear him coming. They agree that the cat= =20 should be belled. "Okay," says the chairmouse, "who's going to bell the cat= ?"=20 And everyone leaves. Pierre --=20 I believe in Yellow when I'm in Sweden and in Black when I'm in Wales. --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegrou= ps.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= ?hl=3Den.