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To: lojban@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] zbalermorna Message-ID: <20110221151704.GA29660@alice.local> Mail-Followup-To: lojban@googlegroups.com References: <20110218183334.GA25026@alice.local> Mime-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: X-Original-Sender: alyn.post@lodockikumazvati.org X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: 209.85.214.175 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of alanpost@sunflowerriver.org) smtp.mail=alanpost@sunflowerriver.org Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Efrain, Can you link to what you understand to be the current version of zbalermorna? I don't suppose anyone knows how the sample image was generated. In particular, I don't suppose anyone knows (or can guess) how the individual lerfu glyphs were generated? -Alan On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 11:02:47AM -0400, Efrain Caro wrote: > Unfortunately, the version featured on the wiki is an early one. > Afterwards, it was changed, so playing with that version is not the > best choice. Kmir (or lakmir) promised to publish a pdf after he > annouced the final version. He never published it as long as I know. > Since nobody else has replied, I guess nobody knows and the inventor > is no longer subscribed, or is not paying attention. I only hope for > the final version of zbalermorna to be finally published. >=20 > Efrain >=20 >=20 >=20 > On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 2:33 PM, .alyn.post. > wrote: > > That one is my favorite too. =A0I've played with it a little; it would > > be nice to see a new diagram with the updates suggested at the > > bottom of the wiki page. > > > > -Alan >=20 > --=20 > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups= "lojban" group. > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegr= oups.com. > For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojb= an?hl=3Den. >=20 --=20 .i ko djuno fi le do sevzi --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegrou= ps.com. 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