From lojban+bncCMHEmaCOBhDNiorrBBoEoHp8xg@googlegroups.com Mon Feb 21 07:31:42 2011 Received: from mail-yw0-f61.google.com ([209.85.213.61]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1PrXjd-0004f9-Ax; Mon, 21 Feb 2011 07:31:41 -0800 Received: by ywg8 with SMTP id 8sf1374638ywg.16 for ; Mon, 21 Feb 2011 07:31:31 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=aAu9nlenHiPqLaWjFRJlFVmEpj77HT//K3kDdILAvQo=; b=cj4Iff0kDt1QeLanTUToxCLj2O0Sx8G1HGHx0Kbzn4EztLing8aqx+Ph63YaCvTFkg D4g1UQ1zrqZCVXlZhHR1hEtgc60eLsNbuvONaSKfhLHp5TZJD8ZQCo8hYcGCtaKFgHC3 2gU8ca4mN6AQCcnVZtsxhwuKJ48nioe8FLUEs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=qk6el+8klAaJqq9tjjeL+nlrAmyN2HiuT2SwBzIIGK6sdc7FzpE013SzgzOF9vp2DG 4SDxVO/z6mr5SwhvPyvWj0Q+EIkbYqZfjay6hJIcaTsAh5G1qW/Qr4+Xr+/jQlWYC+hT 6VIyuHWwJU5PQdEPaOlrdG1uDn63HE3EO/OmI= Received: by 10.150.51.20 with SMTP id y20mr236749yby.82.1298302285832; Mon, 21 Feb 2011 07:31:25 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.150.162.21 with SMTP id k21ls3564175ybe.7.p; Mon, 21 Feb 2011 07:31:25 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.151.45.2 with SMTP id x2mr801586ybj.21.1298302285221; Mon, 21 Feb 2011 07:31:25 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.151.45.2 with SMTP id x2mr801584ybj.21.1298302285169; Mon, 21 Feb 2011 07:31:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-yw0-f47.google.com (mail-yw0-f47.google.com [209.85.213.47]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id u31si758192yba.13.2011.02.21.07.31.25 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 21 Feb 2011 07:31:25 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 209.85.213.47 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.213.47; Received: by ywg8 with SMTP id 8so499078ywg.6 for ; Mon, 21 Feb 2011 07:31:25 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.42.217.68 with SMTP id hl4mr2113705icb.181.1298302284858; Mon, 21 Feb 2011 07:31:24 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.231.200.198 with HTTP; Mon, 21 Feb 2011 07:31:24 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20110221151704.GA29660@alice.local> References: <20110218183334.GA25026@alice.local> <20110221151704.GA29660@alice.local> Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 08:31:24 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] zbalermorna From: Jonathan Jones To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: eyeonus@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 209.85.213.47 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=eyeonus@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf3054a007800723049ccc8e0d --20cf3054a007800723049ccc8e0d Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I could probably figure it out if I was looking at it, but I have no idea idea this point. I don't remember ever seeing this orthograohy. On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 8:17 AM, .alyn.post. wrote: > Efrain, > > Can you link to what you understand to be the current version of > zbalermorna? > > I don't suppose anyone knows how the sample image was generated. > In particular, I don't suppose anyone knows (or can guess) how > the individual lerfu glyphs were generated? > > -Alan > > On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 11:02:47AM -0400, Efrain Caro wrote: > > Unfortunately, the version featured on the wiki is an early one. > > Afterwards, it was changed, so playing with that version is not the > > best choice. Kmir (or lakmir) promised to publish a pdf after he > > annouced the final version. He never published it as long as I know. > > Since nobody else has replied, I guess nobody knows and the inventor > > is no longer subscribed, or is not paying attention. I only hope for > > the final version of zbalermorna to be finally published. > > > > Efrain > > > > > > > > On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 2:33 PM, .alyn.post. > > wrote: > > > That one is my favorite too. I've played with it a little; it would > > > be nice to see a new diagram with the updates suggested at the > > > bottom of the wiki page. > > > > > > -Alan > > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "lojban" group. > > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. > > > > -- > .i ko djuno fi le do sevzi > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "lojban" group. > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. > > -- mu'o mi'e .aionys. .i.a'o.e'e ko cmima le bende pe lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o (Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D ) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. --20cf3054a007800723049ccc8e0d Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I could probably figure it out if I was looking at it, but I have no idea i= dea this point. I don't remember ever seeing this orthograohy.

<= div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 8:17 AM, .alyn.post. <alyn.po= st@lodockikumazvati.org> wrote:
Efrain,

Can you link to what you understand to be the current version of
zbalermorna?

I don't suppose anyone knows how the sample image was generated.
In particular, I don't suppose anyone knows (or can guess) how
the individual lerfu glyphs were generated?

-Alan

On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 11:02:47AM -0400, Efrain Caro wrote:
> Unfortunately, the version featured on the wiki is an early one.
> Afterwards, it was changed, so playing with that version is not the > best choice. Kmir (or lakmir) promised to publish a pdf after he
> annouced the final version. He never published it as long as I know. > Since nobody else has replied, I guess nobody knows and the inventor > is no longer subscribed, or is not paying attention. I only hope for > the final version of zbalermorna to be finally published.
>
> Efrain
>
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 2:33 PM, .alyn.post.
> <alyn.post@lodock= ikumazvati.org> wrote:
> > That one is my favorite too. =A0I've played with it a little;= it would
> > be nice to see a new diagram with the updates suggested at the > > bottom of the wiki page.
> >
> > -Alan
>
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