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To: lojban@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] zbalermorna Message-ID: <20110221153759.GB29660@alice.local> Mail-Followup-To: lojban@googlegroups.com References: <20110218183334.GA25026@alice.local> <20110221151704.GA29660@alice.local> Mime-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: X-Original-Sender: alyn.post@lodockikumazvati.org X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: 209.85.214.177 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of alanpost@sunflowerriver.org) smtp.mail=alanpost@sunflowerriver.org Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline I'll be interested to know if we're even talking about the same thing. :-) Here is what I have in mind: http://www.lojban.org/tiki/Lakmir.%27s+Vowel-Diacritic+Orthography -Alan On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 08:31:24AM -0700, Jonathan Jones wrote: > I could probably figure it out if I was looking at it, but I have no idea > idea this point. I don't remember ever seeing this orthograohy. > > On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 8:17 AM, .alyn.post. > <[1]alyn.post@lodockikumazvati.org> wrote: > > Efrain, > > Can you link to what you understand to be the current version of > zbalermorna? > > I don't suppose anyone knows how the sample image was generated. > In particular, I don't suppose anyone knows (or can guess) how > the individual lerfu glyphs were generated? > > -Alan > On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 11:02:47AM -0400, Efrain Caro wrote: > > Unfortunately, the version featured on the wiki is an early one. > > Afterwards, it was changed, so playing with that version is not the > > best choice. Kmir (or lakmir) promised to publish a pdf after he > > annouced the final version. He never published it as long as I know. > > Since nobody else has replied, I guess nobody knows and the inventor > > is no longer subscribed, or is not paying attention. I only hope for > > the final version of zbalermorna to be finally published. > > > > Efrain > > > > > > > > On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 2:33 PM, .alyn.post. > > <[2]alyn.post@lodockikumazvati.org> wrote: > > > That one is my favorite too. I've played with it a little; it would > > > be nice to see a new diagram with the updates suggested at the > > > bottom of the wiki page. > > > > > > -Alan > > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "lojban" group. > > To post to this group, send email to [3]lojban@googlegroups.com. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [4]lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > > For more options, visit this group at > [5]http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. > > > > -- > .i ko djuno fi le do sevzi > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "lojban" group. > To post to this group, send email to [6]lojban@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [7]lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > [8]http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. > > -- > mu'o mi'e .aionys. > > .i.a'o.e'e ko cmima le bende pe lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu > do zo'o > (Come to the Dot Side! 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