From lojban+bncCIycn8S8DhDGg5TrBBoEzjTRXQ@googlegroups.com Wed Feb 23 04:47:25 2011 Received: from mail-qy0-f189.google.com ([209.85.216.189]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1PsE7e-0006hG-Ke; Wed, 23 Feb 2011 04:47:24 -0800 Received: by qyk36 with SMTP id 36sf9823338qyk.16 for ; Wed, 23 Feb 2011 04:47:08 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=F2cjOhOJU+olK5VpZwL4Zu0Tef9PjVAe1d02AvOpReU=; b=Vsp5/kS0oXcgAGCbN7VzjVovF6goZ8TYeNHrPMYkaTT1hsPoCFYaduS3g0VcJ84bVP S/axVhvV/F24qMGJLfr6C81C5QfQknpxN50lAx709sgKbRbO1MS5jGI5ckaLCVPWr14m 2P4rTiajAyk3FJ+xqftxePULKOgwX+J4CucYE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=bhVtkxl3j2H0ma5778kliagFGmwVpuivYkXNkr5cqJMRFgpDI/sKfyvTcP/c2YXIbJ mHb2G+cLhF0RARosjbMA8YXNP6hBdwZgXW+LaY/o93PNwK1UAcpJ/fA2f4faF+4ZjAZN Q8gIzr7q/iaYHzmUmF6fQkj7s9S/r7mMzz7Ug= Received: by 10.229.126.167 with SMTP id c39mr534291qcs.23.1298465222934; Wed, 23 Feb 2011 04:47:02 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.229.204.201 with SMTP id fn9ls258981qcb.3.p; Wed, 23 Feb 2011 04:47:01 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.229.251.134 with SMTP id ms6mr443451qcb.5.1298465221864; Wed, 23 Feb 2011 04:47:01 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.229.251.134 with SMTP id ms6mr443450qcb.5.1298465221822; Wed, 23 Feb 2011 04:47:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-qy0-f175.google.com (mail-qy0-f175.google.com [209.85.216.175]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id s6si1628289qco.13.2011.02.23.04.47.01 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Wed, 23 Feb 2011 04:47:01 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of mturniansky@gmail.com designates 209.85.216.175 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.216.175; Received: by mail-qy0-f175.google.com with SMTP id 35so3112073qyk.20 for ; Wed, 23 Feb 2011 04:47:01 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.238.82 with SMTP id kr18mr357138qcb.98.1298465221676; Wed, 23 Feb 2011 04:47:01 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.229.222.15 with HTTP; Wed, 23 Feb 2011 04:47:01 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 07:47:01 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] cu From: Michael Turniansky To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: mturniansky@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of mturniansky@gmail.com designates 209.85.216.175 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=mturniansky@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e64b03b64a8e66049cf27e11 --0016e64b03b64a8e66049cf27e11 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Anything that converts some other part of grammar into a selbri (including NU, ME, NUhA, etc. etc.) does exactly that. And any selbri can become tanruized. --gehyspa On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 4:51 AM, MorphemeAddict wrote: > ki'e > mu'o mi'e stevon > > On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 12:35 AM, Ross Ogilvie wrote: > >> Yes, both PAmoi and GOhA can be components of tanru, so you sometimes need >> a {cu}. >> >> mu'o mi'e ros >> >> On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 3:12 PM, MorphemeAddict wrote: >> >>> 1. Is {cu} used before {du} to keep {du} from being part of a tanru >>> with what precedes it? E.g., >>> .i le traji jibni be le terdi be'o tarci du le solri noi dunda fi le >>> terdi fe piso'a lo ty nejni >>> .i lo nenri plini du la .merkurios. ce la .venus. ce le terdi ce la >>> .mars. .ije lo bartu plini du la .xupiter. ce la .saturn. ce la .uranos. ce >>> la .neptun. >>> >>> 2. Is {cu} used before {PAmoi}? E.g., >>> la merkuris goi ko'a cu pamoi lo'i plini be la solri >>> ni'o la .venus. goi ko'a 2moi plini co darno be le solri >>> >>> (All examples from Lojban Wikipedia.) >>> >>> stevo >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "lojban" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "lojban" group. >> To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "lojban" group. > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. 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=A0 Anything that converts some other part of grammar= into a=A0selbri (including NU, ME, NUhA,=A0=A0etc. etc.) does exactly that= .=A0 And any selbri can become tanruized.
=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 --gehyspa

On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 4:51 AM, MorphemeAddict = <lytlesw@gmail.co= m> wrote:
ki'e
mu'o mi'e stevon

On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 12:35 AM, Ross Ogilvie <= span dir=3D"ltr"><oges007@gmail.com> wrote:
Yes, both PAmoi and GOhA can be = components of tanru, so you sometimes need a {cu}.

mu'o mi'e= ros

On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 3:12 PM, MorphemeAddict <= lytlesw@gmail.com> wrote:
1. Is {cu} used before {du} to keep {du} from being part of a tanru wi= th what precedes it? E.g.,
=A0=A0 .i le traji jibni be le terdi be'o tarci du le solri noi du= nda fi le terdi fe piso'a lo ty nejni
=A0=A0 .i lo nenri plini du la .merkurios. ce la .venus. ce le terdi c= e la .mars. .ije lo bartu plini du la .xupiter. ce la .saturn. ce la .urano= s. ce la .neptun.
=A0
2. Is {cu} used before {PAmoi}? E.g.,
=A0=A0 la merkuris goi ko'a cu pamoi lo'i plini be la solri
=A0=A0 ni'o la .venus. goi ko'a 2moi plini co darno be le solr= i
=A0
(All examples from Lojban Wikipedia.)
=A0
stevo

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