From lojban+bncCIycn8S8DhCG0J_rBBoE6WHpDQ@googlegroups.com Fri Feb 25 09:34:12 2011 Received: from mail-vw0-f61.google.com ([209.85.212.61]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Pt1YP-0001UV-Mo; Fri, 25 Feb 2011 09:34:12 -0800 Received: by vws1 with SMTP id 1sf1013687vws.16 for ; Fri, 25 Feb 2011 09:34:03 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results :x-google-group-id:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=RYHIvi8QVJVqnyH7p1FgI83db6y9+BtuBEq9MJkwBNU=; b=rQ4iEae+pCBp7ROnV22ApBFZjC3KP+z+D6tYUHYp7M0S8/bawPqBTClraFGHOisSi6 nAaUuwEMcgk2dtR29o2CaHekl3d14Cn/V9ym7TNnWXwHOfRZuCGUN/58dTcjsafDrsWn QjB0z6mwKHfA0XKzw4aSTHBewFk9z6bHJV7hI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:x-google-group-id:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=dcBa0q2ENnzyk4uf5adp8UmTQruRInXor5VII9s2haQn1Dp//xMElOxVEvQ03uQCdY L4y/DYShWU1RkGOkDgECChoT4Q5+3aqhBxv2hCBNXoVwhd7KKxPX7qmp7F5K7DD7dvsF Mt/arcPO6/DFGOWgsKI3zXflYV43/6F9g4nRU= Received: by 10.220.185.202 with SMTP id cp10mr3397vcb.19.1298655238023; Fri, 25 Feb 2011 09:33:58 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.220.109.143 with SMTP id j15ls939082vcp.1.p; Fri, 25 Feb 2011 09:33:56 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.220.186.3 with SMTP id cq3mr810693vcb.3.1298655236323; Fri, 25 Feb 2011 09:33:56 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.220.186.3 with SMTP id cq3mr810692vcb.3.1298655236296; Fri, 25 Feb 2011 09:33:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-qy0-f178.google.com (mail-qy0-f178.google.com [209.85.216.178]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id c37si138625vcs.6.2011.02.25.09.33.56 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Fri, 25 Feb 2011 09:33:56 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of mturniansky@gmail.com designates 209.85.216.178 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.216.178; Received: by mail-qy0-f178.google.com with SMTP id 2so1781267qyk.2 for ; Fri, 25 Feb 2011 09:33:56 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.187.18 with SMTP id cu18mr2114191qcb.72.1298655236055; Fri, 25 Feb 2011 09:33:56 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.229.222.15 with HTTP; Fri, 25 Feb 2011 09:33:55 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <12056049.313.1298617316637.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@prof15> <00504502d34a992077049d168774@google.com> Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 12:33:55 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: Re: [lojban-beginners] Question about {roda} From: Michael Turniansky To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: mturniansky@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of mturniansky@gmail.com designates 209.85.216.178 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=mturniansky@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com X-Google-Group-Id: -888834847 Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016363b846207e3ac049d1ebc55 --0016363b846207e3ac049d1ebc55 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 12:28 PM, Jonathan Jones wrote: > On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 10:01 AM, Michael Turniansky < > mturniansky@gmail.com> wrote: > >> On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 11:13 AM, Jonathan Jones wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> >>> I could say >>> >>> {mi gaukla to ko'a gasnu lonu ko'e klama kei toi re gerku fu le cerni >>> snodzu to nu masno cadzu toi .i roda poi gerku me ra pe mi ku'o cmene >>> la.bernerd. fa'u la.djenivas.}, but that's really freaking long and takes >>> forever for me to express and everyone else to comprehend. So, instead, I'd >>> probably say something more like this: >>> >>> {mi gaukla re gerku fu le cerni snodzu .i roda cu cmene la.bernerd. fa'u >>> la.djenivas.} >>> >>> and leave it to context to determine what makes sense for {roda poi >>> zo'e}. >>> >> >> It took me a while to understand what you were trying to say, but then I >> realized you meant "klagau", not "gaukla", and it all became clear (and you >> also wanted. >> > > No, I wanted gaukla. If you want klagau then put it in jbovlaste. > > Gee, such vehemence. It's not like "gaukla" is in jbovlaste! But we have a HUGE boatload of words that have a -gau suffix (more than 100 formally defined in jbovlastge), and with an established structure of what they mean, one which exactly parallels what you want here, and is one of the few traditions of lujvo making that is so prevalent, that nonce lujvo can be made with it, and everyone knows the deep structure. Conversely, we have exactly ONE that has a gau- prefix. --gejyspa -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. --0016363b846207e3ac049d1ebc55 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 12:28 PM, Jonathan Jones= <eyeonus@gmail.c= om> wrote:
On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 10:01 AM, Michael Turniansky <mturniansky@gmail.com> wrote:

No, I wanted gaukla. If you want klagau then put it in jbovlaste.<= br>=A0
=A0=A0 Gee, such vehemence.=A0 It's not like "gaukla" is= in jbovlaste!=A0 But we have a HUGE boatload of words that have a -gau suf= fix (more than 100 formally defined in jbovlastge), and with an established= structure of what they mean, one which exactly parallels what you want her= e, and is one of the few traditions of lujvo making that is so prevalent, t= hat nonce lujvo can be made with it, and everyone knows the deep structure.= =A0 Conversely, we have exactly ONE that has a gau- prefix.=A0=A0
=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 --gejyspa
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