From lojban+bncCICntNPQBRCN3LHrBBoEfq042g@googlegroups.com Mon Feb 28 19:55:08 2011 Received: from mail-yw0-f61.google.com ([209.85.213.61]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1PuGfx-0001MM-4m; Mon, 28 Feb 2011 19:55:08 -0800 Received: by ywg8 with SMTP id 8sf3028082ywg.16 for ; Mon, 28 Feb 2011 19:54:59 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:x-beenthere:date:from:reply-to:to:message-id :in-reply-to:subject:mime-version:x-original-sender:precedence :mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=DCRuLsZxn6xCoX0Y1CQvaKossEvS5l2eFcF2QdVVdz0=; b=G0biSbpJBrRp0XHFAW/rKmORszj3mR1iHRFenjEG+y/k+lVOwFfNiiNyn3ACsSVoxF wrLv54Vy/0IgZA8ufcwJ/q1S9M6/OZyB8Qschv76Amxv7W25KB6Tg11qf3r3h64f9eF1 TDlEIm5TtNBJwJCSKR5HhJ23EXLWg9SzVg9yQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:date:from:reply-to:to:message-id:in-reply-to:subject :mime-version:x-original-sender:precedence:mailing-list:list-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=bdkS0OdV47AKxhykjl/lY8ePE7AMi5xGj+klIZWX6Nuyqga8ChFsjd8ZMfe5mmdDiy GaHDnLvOR4tKL+KYwjBxB57krzAwNQUuh25+Mtdf+HnqXcJRc1Jv7DOFJ/y3MSCY0du+ 0nszcdO6XR74GklzkNik52PkYDBlPN6Vw5Am4= Received: by 10.91.9.19 with SMTP id m19mr736631agi.43.1298951693428; Mon, 28 Feb 2011 19:54:53 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.91.87.7 with SMTP id p7ls807871agl.3.p; Mon, 28 Feb 2011 19:54:52 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.91.169.18 with SMTP id w18mr721777ago.21.1298951692720; Mon, 28 Feb 2011 19:54:52 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2011 19:54:51 -0800 (PST) From: Lindar Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com To: lojban@googlegroups.com Message-ID: <31261247.23.1298951691667.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@prnp16> In-Reply-To: <5ec7b537-16b7-43b2-bf6e-445ebaee0f79@o18g2000prh.googlegroups.com> Subject: [lojban] Re: coi ro do i mi cnino i dai ui MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Original-Sender: lindarthebard@yahoo.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_22_8959957.1298951691662" ------=_Part_22_8959957.1298951691662 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hi there! I'm excited to see a new face on the mailing list! We have plenty of questions, we've got a beginners 1. Please read and reread and re-reread these lessons on Lojban . 2. The denpabu (full-stop) goes -before- a vowel, not after; please make sure you do this for every vowel-starting word. 3. Names are not capitalised; if you want to spell your name the way you do in whatever your native language is, you must use la'o or la'oi. 4. Names in Lojban are surrounded by dots (a rule we call 'dotside'); my name is {la .lindar.} in Lojban. 5. {le} is no longer the default gadri, so your use of {le} seems very peculiar, especially at "le nu". 6. What is a {cnino kucli}? "Unfamiliar thing-being-curious." ? 7. What is a "cunso notci"? "Unpredictable note." ? 8. {la .tuitr.} is the best approximation. {.ter.} is pronounced like English "tear" (verb sense, as in 'tearing paper'), so {.tuiter.} sounds very strange. R can be syllabic in Lojban. 9. *{i mi ca'a cnino je'u le nu lojbo} translates to something like "I'm actually unfamiliar to being Lojbanic.", which sounds okay in English, but means more like, "Being Lojbanic is not familiar with me.". The unfamiliar thing is the x1 of {cnino} and the unfamiliar thing is the x2. X. Your past use of {cfari} is incorrect. The definition is "x1 starts/begins.". There is no place for an agent. A more correct way to express this is like {mi co'a broda} "I'm starting to broda.". E. What is {dai ui} meant to indicate? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. ------=_Part_22_8959957.1298951691662 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi there! I'm excited to see a new face on the mailing list! We have p= lenty of questions, we've got a beginners

1. Please rea= d and reread and re-reread these lessons on Lojban.
2. The denpabu (full-= stop) goes -before- a vowel, not after; please make sure you do this for ev= ery vowel-starting word. 
3. Names are not capitalised; if you wan= t to spell your name the way you do in whatever your native language is, yo= u must use la'o or la'oi.
4. Names in Lojban are surrounded by do= ts (a rule we call 'dotside'); my name is {la .lindar.} in Lojban. 
5. {le} is no longer the default gadri, so your use of {le} seems v= ery peculiar, especially at "le nu".
6. What is a {cnino kucli}? = "Unfamiliar thing-being-curious." ?
7. What is a "cunso notci"? "= Unpredictable note." ?
8. {la .tuitr.} is the best approximation.= {.ter.} is pronounced like English "tear" (verb sense, as in 'tearing pape= r'), so {.tuiter.} sounds very strange. R can be syllabic in Lojban.
<= div>9. *{
= X. Your= past use of {cfari} is incorrect. The definition is "x1 starts/begins.". T= here is no place for an agent. A more correct way to express this is like {= mi co'a broda} "I'm starting to broda.".
E. What is {dai ui} mean= t to indicate?

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